When did conspiracy theorists become seen as tin foil hat nutters (A real conspiracy)

[Banditbandit]

Don't you people know the basic rules of conspiracy ?

Conspiracies MUST be secret and hidden ... ergo ... If you can see it - it is not a conspiracy ..

So everything you think is a conspiracy really isn't ... simply because you can see it ...

[Drew]

Don't you people know the basic rules of conspiracy ?

Conspiracies MUST be secret and hidden ... ergo ... If you can see it - it is not a conspiracy ..

So everything you think is a conspiracy really isn't ... simply because you can see it ...

Once a conspiracy is uncovered, it's just a run of the mill scandal. There's no fun in those though, so theorists keep adding to remaining covered stuff.

Jeeze, don't you know anything? It mstar still be covered. Hehehe.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Once a conspiracy is uncovered, it's just a run of the mill scandal. There's no fun in those though, so theorists keep adding to remaining covered stuff.

Jeeze, don't you know anything? It mstar still be covered. Hehehe.

Someone forgot to tell the Yanks.

(Reuters) - Nine companies based in Japan and two executives have agreed to plead guilty and to pay almost $745 million in fines for their roles in long-running conspiracies to fix the prices of auto parts sold to U.S. car manufacturers, the Department of Justice said on Thursday.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...98P0TE20130926

[husaberg]

Someone forgot to tell the Yanks.



http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...98P0TE20130926

Ever heard of Opec.................

[Brian d marge]

The Japanese are as dodgy as the day is long , trust me

Stephen

[mashman]

Someone forgot to tell the Yanks.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...98P0TE20130926

Business is business.

[Crasherfromwayback]

The Japanese are as dodgy as the day is long , trust me

Stephen

Lol. So are you geezer!

[Woodman]

Someone forgot to tell the Yanks.



http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/...98P0TE20130926

Finally you come up with something that actually happened.

Not very interesting these actual "conspiracies" aye ?

[pzkpfw]

It seems: "some conspiracies are real, therefore all proposed conspiracies are real".

And: "Governments sometimes lie, therefore everything governments say are lies".

... and there's that 100% thing again, where the tin foil hatters see the World in B&W.

Whereas the rest of us know that conspiracies, government lies, etc etc etc all can and do happen - we just want to see the proof before accepting that some given claimed event really was a conspiracy or Government lie, or Alien anal probing or whatever the claim of the day is.

[Katman]

Whereas the rest of us know that conspiracies, government lies, etc etc etc all can and do happen - we just want to see the proof before accepting that some given claimed event really was a conspiracy or Government lie, or Alien anal probing or whatever the claim of the day is.

If you're not prepared to watch the videos that have been linked to then you clearly have no interest in seeing proof.

[flyingcrocodile46]

Finally you come up with something that actually happened.

Not very interesting these actual "conspiracies" aye ?

They are everywhere and many have been admitted. I'm amazed you see this one, but rather suspect that the only reason, is that the US govt officially used the word 'conspiracy' to describe it. Had they not done so I am pretty sure that you wouldn't acknowledge that it even happened they way described, let alone that it as a conspiracy. Well done Yuo.

[flyingcrocodile46]

It seems: "some conspiracies are real, therefore all proposed conspiracies are real".

And: "Governments sometimes lie, therefore everything governments say are lies".

... and there's that 100% thing again, where the tin foil hatters see the World in B&W.

Whereas the rest of us know that conspiracies, government lies, etc etc etc all can and do happen - we just want to see the proof before accepting that some given claimed event really was a conspiracy or Government lie, or Alien anal probing or whatever the claim of the day is.

Now you are telling shameless lies just the way they do.

Then watch the videos you have repeatedly been linked to. FFS It's like pulling teeth.

[Scuba_Steve]

It seems: "some conspiracies are false, therefore all proposed conspiracies are false".

And: "Governments sometimes tell truth, therefore everything governments say are the truth".

... and there's that 100% thing again, where the blanker wearing see the World in B&W.

Whereas the rest of us know that sometimes governments are honest & tell truth, etc etc etc all can and occasionally happen - we just look to see the proof before accepting the propaganda the Govt or corporate media give us

yep, gotta agree with you there

[pzkpfw]

If you're not prepared to watch the videos that have been linked to then you clearly have no interest in seeing proof.

Nah, the thing is I've been there and done that. 9/11 was a few years ago, now, and I've been through the discussions long ago on forums involving actual aerospace engineers and such.

I'm not wasting my time on youtube videos - they only exist to sway the gullible. Show me somewhere with text - at least I can scan that to see if there are new arguments. Then I'll know I'm not wasting my time on the same old same old innuendo and rubbish. (Geez, I've seen little posted here that's new or even half-way logical.)

(I once sat through a youtube video where a guy stuffed a few old newspapers into a wire animal cage (it was for hamsters or cats or something). He stuck a cinder block on the cage, then lit the newspapers. That the block didn't crush the cage was then somehow "proof" that the WTC must have been demolished.

I mean, FFS, that's the kind of "proof" on youtube that the tin foilers swallow.)


... but anyway, that's why I'm not really bothering to debate the (non-existing) issues here; I'm more commenting on the tin foil mind set.

e.g. I actually respect mashman, but heck, I've seen a post where his "logical argument" really did boil down to "Governments have lied therefore it's a fact that the thing I'm saying is a lie, is a lie". That's just nuts.

[Katman]

Nah, the thing is I've been there and done that. 9/11 was a few years ago, now, and I've been through the discussions long ago on forums involving actual aerospace engineers and such.

I suppose that response is much easier than trying to answer any of the questions on the videos.