Failed parent gives boys a kicking. And shit.

[Maha]

Chuck Norris is that you. And Shit?

Fixed that for ya.

[Banditbandit]

so, i must ask the KB cuntmunity a) if they've been in a similar position and b) what they would, or think they would, do, if e'er they twere...

discuss.

I'm not sure - do you have a photograph of the position they were in ???

What would I do ? depends what sort of position I was in .. and whether I was one of the boys or the father ..

[Akzle]

I'm not sure - do you have a photogrpah of the position they were in ???

What would I do ? depends what sort of position I was in .. and whether I was one of the boys or the father ..

apparently kids were sitting on the grass verge.

Wondering as a father

[Paul in NZ]

I'm sure it will all become obvious to you when your kids get to a certain age. Calling this guy a 'failed' parent is a bit bloody rich as there are a hell of a lot of factors at play which will determine which direction your own kids will travel...

For myself - I've done what he did and much much worse. But being insulted and spat at by under aged drop kicks at the early hours when you have had no sleep and been trying to track down a wayward daughter in the early hours will do that to you. I considered it a life lesson for them...

Good luck to you - you will need luck as much as skill in raising a child...

[Mushu]

.....For myself - I've done what he did and much much worse. But being insulted and spat at by under aged drop kicks at the early hours when you have had no sleep and been trying to track down a wayward daughter in the early hours will do that to you. I considered it a life lesson for them...

Having been in the other end of some girls father getting violent for very little reason an argument escalated but the father involved actually started it (but I guarantee his version of events has it as being my fault) perhaps you should have been asking your daughter about the company she keeps rather than attacking some teenage boys that have done nothing but be teenage boys, beating her boyfriends isn't going to change your daughters behavior is it, and it's pretty much the same situation for the cop in the OP.

[duckonin]

Cop or not good on him, he is the lasses father. If I had ever caught a couple of cunts trying to get my daughter drunk at 14 I would of more than kicked the fucken mongrels.

[Drew]

Without knowing the whole story, it's hard to know what anyone would do.

My daughter would get the first kick in the arse if she was out late at night at 15 though.

[Banditbandit]

Cop or not good on him, he is the lasses father. If I had ever caught a couple of cunts trying to get my daughter drunk at 14 I would of more than kicked the fucken mongrels.

Where did it say the boys were trying to get her drunk ???

How about the boys' fathers?? What would you do if your son came home and told you that some twat had kicked the shit out of him for talking to a girl ?

[Paul in NZ]

Having been in the other end of some girls father getting violent for very little reason an argument escalated but the father involved actually started it (but I guarantee his version of events has it as being my fault) perhaps you should have been asking your daughter about the company she keeps rather than attacking some teenage boys that have done nothing but be teenage boys, beating her boyfriends isn't going to change your daughters behavior is it, and it's pretty much the same situation for the cop in the OP.

Funny - you don't know me but I'm actually a very reasonable chap. There are people here that know me in real life - probably ask them??? I hardly go into situations swearing and swinging - especially when its 10 to 1. BUT - Sometimes you cannot walk away - especially when your kid has got into a situation that has escalated out of control and they or you are seriously worried for their safety and cannot leave.. Young men and too much alcohol turning up in groups where they shouldnt be? In a couple of cases a moments weakness would have had the whole poxy lot of them down on me like a pack of rabid dogs... Call the cops? Sure but in the time its going to take for them to get there someone could have been seriously injured or worse... Or are you telling me you would just stand there and watch your daughter get assaulted or raped while you went outside and called their parents?

Please don't trot out some crap about you would make sure she never got into that situation because it does happen in the best of regulated circumstances...

I'm not justifing what happened but I'm saying that its very very easy to judge others based on a few lines in a newspaper. Sometimes you need the whole story and end of the day the officer kicked a couple of lads with his bare feet... I'm just saying I've done worse... (for that matter they were all bigger than me - just drunker and dumb...)

On one hand we all moan about slipping standards and how back in my day the cops would give us a kick up the bum and nothing more was said... pfftt...

FWIW other times I've had to ferry drunk teenagers to homes where parents don't care and been abused for bringing them home - taken them to A&E and administered first aid. None of them have been my kids but everyone of them was in serious trouble - they were the same kids I've also got into tussles with... A few of them even thanked me afterwards...

[Banditbandit]

Again, you are escalating the situation into drunk teenagers, pack rape ... I have no doubt that you reacted appropriately in those situatuions you describe, however ... Where did those things crop up in the original narrative?

[Paul in NZ]

Again, you are escalating the situation into drunk teenagers, pack rape ... I have no doubt that you reacted appropriately in those situatuions you describe, however ... Where did those things crop up in the original narrative?

Last post on this - I was there - you were not. Situation was spirally out of control and so I did what I felt I had to do. Others may have acted differently.

Pack rape comment was a question in that would you stand by and do nothing if you see shit like this happening? My comment originally was that I had done much worse - I suppose technically it was assault? Technically I suppose I was also a repeat offender. Comments reflect several different instances but in the pack rape situation it was actually someone elses daughter as I already had mine in tow. A bit of hi jinks and sexy teasing rapidly escalates to scary shit in some circumstances.... She was already in tears and had a ripped top - I suppose you would be happier if I just left the kid there?

Look - every place and time is different. BUT when you are in the middle of a group for hyped up young men hell bent on mayhem and starting in on the racial comments its not the time to act like the good fairy. If you think there was not some fairly robust discussion afterwards you would be wrong...

Some here started slagging off this guy because he was a cop. He kicked two people with his bare feet...

I have done worse - I did what I felt needed to do, its not flash but neither were any of the other options... I hope you never need to make choices like that but sometimes you have to...

[Drew]

some teenage boys that have done nothing but be teenage boys,

That's a bit vague chief.

I was a teenage boy, if I was lucky enough to be hanging out with a chick late at night and her dad showed up, you can be damn sure I wouldn't be trying to wind the guy up!

This is getting off track anyway. From the tiny bit of information given by Akzle in the first post, no one can say what they'd do.

If I saw a young girl in tears, with her top ripped and a bunch of louts however, it'd be time to start hoping my size and eye gouging skills were up to the task of helping her.

[Banditbandit]

Last post on this - I was there - you were not. Situation was spirally out of control and so I did what I felt I had to do. Others may have acted differently.

Pack rape comment was a question in that would you stand by and do nothing if you see shit like this happening? My comment originally was that I had done much worse - I suppose technically it was assault? Technically I suppose I was also a repeat offender. Comments reflect several different instances but in the pack rape situation it was actually someone elses daughter as I already had mine in tow. A bit of hi jinks and sexy teasing rapidly escalates to scary shit in some circumstances.... She was already in tears and had a ripped top - I suppose you would be happier if I just left the kid there?

Look - every place and time is different. BUT when you are in the middle of a group for hyped up young men hell bent on mayhem and starting in on the racial comments its not the time to act like the good fairy. If you think there was not some fairly robust discussion afterwards you would be wrong...

Some here started slagging off this guy because he was a cop. He kicked two people with his bare feet...

I have done worse - I did what I felt needed to do, its not flash but neither were any of the other options... I hope you never need to make choices like that but sometimes you have to...

Mate - did you pass comprehension at school ??? I said you probably acted appropriately in the situation you described ...

But you seem to justify this cop kicking teenagers (albeit with his bare feet) because they were teenage boys trying to get his daughter drunk.

All I asked was where did the idea that the teenage boys were trying to get his daughter drunk come from ??? It is not in the original post ...

[Mushu]

Well as you say it's impossible to figure who's to blame with the information available to us in either the case of the OP or in the case as described by Paul. I've been on either side of this, don't have kids but I do have younger sisters and have been in fights because of the bad decisions of one of them, a girl being where she shouldn't be is no reason to assault somebody else involved even if there is language back and forward, there are situations that may require intervention but nothing like that had been mentioned in either the OP or Pauls post that I replied to.
Once rape is involved I support the fathers right to whatever he does to the offender.

[duckonin]

Where did it say the boys were trying to get her drunk ???

How about the boys' fathers?? What would you do if your son came home and told you that some twat had kicked the shit out of him for talking to a girl ?

Drinking alcohol has a tendency to make idiots drunk, more so those who are under age and are not meant 'TO BE DRINKING'. WHO had the 'SHIT KICKED OUT OF THEM'? A kick to the shin is not having the shit kicked out of fuck ! To the other question you pose. After having been a LAD, I would of told him "he probably deserved" it as most older persons with 14 year old daughters would not go off half cocked without provocation. More to the point, he would not of wanted me to know about it at all.