Bill slashing drink-drive limit before Parliament (down to 0.05g per 100ml of blood)

**jasonu** · 26th September 2013, 14:26

Originally Posted by mashman

Sigh... always legislation first, much easier that way eh.

How's about, you've been caught more than once, therefore before you can drive off in your car you must pay ??$300?? to have a bloke fit a breathaliser unit and a light to your car. Your car will not start without the breathaliser being blown into,.

They do that here except it costs the offender more like $2000 for the installation and your ride won't start at all until you blow under the limit which for the offender is 0% and if you get your mate to blow and get cought it is off to jail for you.

**mashman** · 26th September 2013, 14:30

Originally Posted by jasonu

They do that here except it costs the offender more like $2000 for the installation and your ride won't start at all until you blow under the limit which for the offender is 0% and if you get your mate to blow and get cought it is off to jail for you.

They did an experiment a while back where a drunk would ask strangers to blow into the tube for them... needless to say that some did. It also mentioned the possibility of black market devices to bypass the device. All the more reason to just let the thing start and to have a light come of giving people a warning I would have thought, but meh, since when did common sense matter eh

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**jasonu** · 26th September 2013, 14:35

This thread is moot now...
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11130481

**unstuck** · 26th September 2013, 14:47

Ban the shit all together, If weed is illegal then alcohol should be too. Stupid fuckin humans.

**Road kill** · 26th September 2013, 14:55

If it somehow made the courts impose maximum sentences then maybe it would be of some worth.

But it won't,,so what's the fucking point ?

This is just lazy law making by people that don't have the nuts to do anything real about the problem.

The solution is already in their hands but their simply to gutless to use it, so they change the law in an attempt to be seen as having done something.

Just more smoke screen politics,,,nothing new.

**Swoop** · 26th September 2013, 15:04

0.05 is what Aussie has, so no surprises there.

Stupid move? = Yes.

The problem is the repeat offenders who are GROSSLY over the limit and then the courts give them a slap with the proverbial wet bus ticket.

(Then we have the issue of lowering the age to purchase alcohol...)

**Jeff Sichoe** · 26th September 2013, 15:06

Originally Posted by jasonu

This thread is moot now...
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11130481

I think that's just a retarded headline? By 'Being pulled' they mean pulled from the ballot not 'being removed from the table'

**Grizzo** · 26th September 2013, 15:16

Originally Posted by unstuck

Ban the shit all together, If weed is illegal then alcohol should be too. Stupid fuckin humans.

Yep, more bad shit happens when alcohols involved.
I bet no serious crime gets committed after one partakes in a smoke of the good stuff....maybe because they cant be fucked getting off the couch

But in all seriousness, it's a fucked world when alcohol and poison soaked tobacco
is readily available off the shelf but a plant that chills people out is illegal.

Fucked I tell ya

**Scuba_Steve** · 26th September 2013, 15:43

Originally Posted by Grizzo

Yep, more bad shit happens when alcohols involved.
I bet no serious crime gets committed after one partakes in a smoke of the good stuff....maybe because they cant be fucked getting off the couch

But in all seriousness, it's a fucked world when alcohol and poison soaked tobacco
is readily available off the shelf but a plant that chills people out is illegal.

Fucked I tell ya

Define "serious crime" thefts, assaults, murders, rapes have all occurred during weed highs. Weed making people too laxed to do anything is BS, it's like saying booze makes people to shitfaced to do anything.

However if it was upto me weed would be legalised & taxed to shit like the other poisons, I don't see it any worse than booze & fags

**SMOKEU** · 26th September 2013, 16:59

Why is the bill before parliament in the first place? You'd have to be dumb to think it's going to reduce the road death toll.

**ellipsis** · 26th September 2013, 17:25

Originally Posted by Grizzo

But in all seriousness, it's a fucked world when alcohol and poison soaked tobacco
is readily available off the shelf but a plant that chills people out is illegal.

...do you really think they want the minions to be 'chilled'...there ain't no brass in a calm situation, turmoil and doubt is what the leaders want...keeps them in bizzo...

**Scouse** · 26th September 2013, 17:39

Originally Posted by Gremlin

It's hardly slashed if it's going from 0.08 to 0.05.

I think it's great and about time. National chickened out of changing this the last time around. 0.08 is simply too high, and I thought I read something recently, that if you're around that level, you're actually too intoxicated to made a safe decision about driving or not. 0.05 is also a level adopted by quite a few countries.

Agree with Devil as well that they really need to nail repeat offenders. Often these cases are blown a little out of proportion by the extreme. Harsher rules for all dog owners, when it's a minority that won't obey the new rules anyway. Same thing with drink driving.

your opinion does not count cos your not from here your a yarpie so you have no rights to comment

**paturoa** · 26th September 2013, 17:45

I've not seen anywhere the number of accidents, injuries or deaths directly attritibutal (sp?) to people with ranges BETWEEN 05 and 08. Has anyone?

**Bassmatt** · 26th September 2013, 17:57

Originally Posted by paturoa

I've not seen anywhere the number of accidents, injuries or deaths directly attritibutal (sp?) to people with ranges BETWEEN 05 and 08. Has anyone?

Apparently a study into just that is to be released "soon". The article in the Herald has some expert suggesting it could cut the road toll by 2/3rds , can't see it myself.