Anarchic Wild Child
Originally Posted by oldrider
I think I am now beginning to agree with the finding of the Privy Counsel, NZ has brought the cost of this one upon ourselves!
We must look bloody pathetic as a country from the outside world ... can't we do any better than this? ... FFS!
Jeez mate ... by world standards we have one of the better justice systems .... they are not judging us - they are envious ...
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Fully qualified Sifter.
And they get how many wrong out of thousands? Admittedly some pretty fucking major ones over the years...but hey...no system is perfect.
NEDWN VIII
Lundy's house was at the eastern end of Palmmy 147kms from Petone. How long was time frame they say he had to drive there/commit the murders and drive back again? Three hours. A 294km round trip.
His average speed would had to have been 100kph without stopping to kill two people.
Add in a reasonable amount of time to commit the murders 20-25 mins? and his average speed increases to around 120kph. That's an unrealistic average speed for SH1 (taking into account traffic lights etc) and keeping at those speeds undetected.
https://maps.google.co.nz/maps?saddr...mra=ls&t=m&z=9
Forum whore
Wow, you should be a detective.
NEDWN VIII
Point missed was (for the non detectives here) that alone would have cast doubt in my mind as a Juror.
Fully qualified Sifter.
Prob being...it's only an issue because the police may well have the time of death wrong, due to the pathologist getting it wrong. The fat cunt could drive up and back as slowly as he liked if he did it at a diff time.
NEDWN VIII
True...however, Lundy's cellphone records show that he was in Petone at 5:43 pm and at 8:48 pm. Given that as being 'true and accurate' the time of death would had to have been within those times, would you agree?...for Lundy to have committed the murders.?
Fully qualified Sifter.
No. Who says he didn't do it after rooting the hooker in Petone?
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Point being - what if he committed the murders at 3 am in the morning - after all the lights were switched off sometime round 10ish - Its still possible he did it but as I stated a wee way back the police have cocked up big time giving the time frame they put forward - its going to be impossible to find him guilty again using the same case
Quote Jan 2020 Posted by Katman
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Anarchic Wild Child
No - the records show his Cellphone was in Petone at those times .. Lundy is not his cellphone ...
Maybe he did it well before or well after those times ...
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
NEDWN VIII
I agree with all of that, and personally believe he did kill his wife and daughter ... but he was found guilty by a Jury that believed the time of death and the travel time as what happened.
If a retrial is to take place, how will the prosecution change those two pervious ''facts''?
Anarchic Wild Child
No - the time of death is cocked up so the high speed drive is probably not required.
However, if I was trying it I would not use State Highway one until well north - Probably Plimmerton ... from Petone go over Haywards Hill and round the harbour ... then to P/North ... (Maybe even use the Paekakariki Hill to avoid traffic)
Or Petone over the 'takas to the Wairarapa, then over the Pahiatua Track ...
At night those two may well be quicker routes ... but it's a long time since I've seriously lived there so I could well be wrong ...
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Anarchic Wild Child
They can change whatever they like - the "fact" is that the time of death is hugely questionable - that was part of the case to the Privy Council - and if that is so, then the high speed drive is not required.
New evidence measn they can have a whole new story .. no issue.
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Just faidin away!
Well the Privy Council don't seem to agree with you on that ... then again they are poms and they get some funny attitudes at times!
Night rider
+1
Right from the very first trial it appeared obvious that the time of death was incorrect. This probable incorrect ToD was raised by the defence and police stuck by their incorrect estimate. On that basis alone Lundy should have been aquitted.
Now lets see the police come up with a more accurate ToD and show that Lundy, and no-one else, had means motive and opportunity. If they can show that the car was not at motel, between midnight and 5:00 am for example, then he will be found guilty once again.
Time to ride
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