Upgrade advice: Thoughts on these super sports bikes?

[rapid van cleef]

The power of a 1000cc sports bike is great fun but complete overkill on the road in my opinion. If you want a sports bike, buy a 600. Still capable of travelling far too fast, more than capable of speeds that are way more than most people would ever use and you have to ride it hard to get the same result as a 1000.

[Road kill]

Do yourself a favor and at lest consider the Triumph Speed Triple.

It doesn't have the HP of most of the list but the perfectly placed tourqe makes it more useable in everyday conditions.

The only other bike on the list I've actually ridden is the R1 from about 02.

I got off it thinking I want one,,but I'm gonn'a die,,,but I still wouldn't mind one.

The Triumph I got off thinking I want I want I want,and I still want.

In fact there's a bloody good chance a Speedy will be my next bike.

[300weatherby]

You have listed so many widely varied options, you clearly don't actually know what you want or need. Test a few, decide on a particular platform, then go looking.


For a Busa!!!!!!!!!!!

[The Reibz]

This is soon to be a collectors item. Keep it stock and you should get a big pay out from it
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-652278949.htm

Could be worth a bid. Chuck 7.5k on it
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-653432565.htm

[tigertim20]

Hey guys I've saved enough dosh to buy one of these super sports bike ( second hand only):

Yamaha R1 ( Year 04 t0 12') or R6 ( year 06 to 12')
Kawasaki ZX10 ( Year 05 t0 12')
Honda CBR ( Year 05 t0 12')
Ducati 749, 999 and 848 ( their respective years)
Mv Agusta F4 750 or 1000 ( their respective years)
KTM Rc8 ( their respective years)


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since everyone else has lready told you youll die, Ill take the other path. if youve decided what you want, youre going to do it anyway, you arent 5 years fuckin old, im sure you can make your own decisions.
The R1's are great, imo the 04-06 were the best looking, I have an 08 and it's insane!!, but Id probably tell you out of the whole lot, to go buy a cross plane, I think the '12 R1 had all the extra goodies like TC and shit, if you have the coin, thats where Id spend it. I wanted one, but couldnt quite afford it so settled on the 08.
The R6's arent a terrible bike, but they LOVE to be revved - great fun in the hnds of a confident rider in the right place like a track

The ZX10, the 05 is an awesome bike, but has a reputation as being a real handful, so approach with caution, the slightly later 07~ or so with the undertails were a little more watered down and might be your style, but I personally think they look a bit clunky and heavy - Im not saying they ARE, just they look like it. since all your options have loads of power, It's not unreasonable to have what looks the prettiest as a factor in your decision!

for me, the pick of the duc's would be the 848, personal preference only.

dont know much about the MV's so Ill leave that for some one who is familiar with them.

the RC8 is a nice bike, I have a couple friends who own them, and they love them. a nice bike but not my cup of tea.

If you want to know what I would buy from that list, it would be the 12 R1, followed shortly after by any of the other crossplane models (09+) but most on that list are pretty damned equal so you might need to whittle your list down to 3-4 models, then go test riding.

The power of a 1000cc sports bike is great fun but complete overkill on the road in my opinion. If you want a sports bike, buy a 600. Still capable of travelling far too fast, more than capable of speeds that are way more than most people would ever use and you have to ride it hard to get the same result as a 1000.

I dont understand the get a 1000, get a 600 argument when put like this. a 600 ALSO has WAY more power than one NEEDS, most will do around 250km/hr or more, and arent a huge amount behind than their 1000cc counterparts. after all the speed limit is 100 right? if youre going to make the argument that a 1000 is overkill, you should be advocating something like a gs500 or something else equally bland.

motorcycles are rarely about what you need, and more about what you WANT.

regardless of what the OP buys next, the cost of ongoing training should be factpred into their finances, the benefits of it can be as valuable on a 250 as a 1000.

[Motig]

Heres a revolutionary idea - how about sorting out what bike you really would like then researching it. Buy the one YOU like.

[bluninja]

I think you should go for a Busa...since your legs are so short....

Personally I think you should spend the money on better gear, then get a better bike. Are you still wearing fingerless gloves? If so maybe you should switch to a Harley where they won't look out of place


Seriously though, pick one from the list that appeals to you most. Then go and check it out and see if it really floats your boat. If you aren't in love with it, try the next model. All people can give their opinions on the bikes they've ridden and owned, but they aren't you. Their stature, build, skill level, experience, life stage and what they want out of the bike will all influence their decision.

[Asher]

Have a go on a either a new zx6r or and 05-06 one, they are 636cc which doesnt sound like much but makes a decent difference to the low and mid range torque. Same goes for a 675 daytona.

I think litre sport are over kill and have never regretted buying a super sport bike

[Gremlin]

The ZX10, the 05 is an awesome bike, but has a reputation as being a real handful, so approach with caution, the slightly later 07~ or so with the undertails were a little more watered down and might be your style, but I personally think they look a bit clunky and heavy - Im not saying they ARE, just they look like it. since all your options have loads of power, It's not unreasonable to have what looks the prettiest as a factor in your decision!

For the ZX10R, the 04-05 was the first model and a handful. The 06-07 (wheelbarrow) was much easier to ride, sat further into the bike etc. Also had a steering damper standard, and while not brilliant, the 04 didn't have one standard (well advised to fit one if one hasn't been already fitted)

I dont understand the get a 1000, get a 600 argument when put like this. a 600 ALSO has WAY more power than one NEEDS, most will do around 250km/hr or more, and arent a huge amount behind than their 1000cc counterparts. after all the speed limit is 100 right? if youre going to make the argument that a 1000 is overkill, you should be advocating something like a gs500 or something else equally bland.

For me at least, it's more the torque. The bike is simply too fast to comprehend for a learner, and especially if they've been used to ringing a 250 (hopefully not happening with LAMS) you really can't have a concentration lapse. Common for a learner to crash a big bike entering a corner as they simply had no idea just how quick they had accelerated since the last corner. Even with a 600 it can happen, but you do need to try a little harder. A thou can easily spin up in top gear when doing 80-90kph as well...

[Erelyes]

1. Work out whether the following gizmos are 'must have', or just 'nice to have' - positive neutral finder (kwakas only), gear position indicator, slipper clutch.

2. Browse trademe/youtube and work out which bike looks the coolest, sounds the coolest, comes in a your favourite colour. We can't answer this for you.

Pick the three bikes that best fit this criteria. Go and sit on each (I wouldn't worry about test riding unless you REALLY want to). Go with your gut and hesitate no further, it's just money.

Still can't decide after that? Assign each bike a number, roll a die and go with what the die says (no matter what).

[caspernz]

Get the R6. Spend all the extra coin on good rider training courses and protective gear.

Good logic. Going from a 250 to a 600 is a much safer bet than straight to a thou, regardless of what anyone says they've done.

To OP - Work out what style of bike you want though, that list of yours is a laugh!

And you may think you're a safe rider, but have you had any actual roadcraft training by a proper instructor? If you haven't, allot a few dollars for some courses to up your skills, and buying a decent 600 or 750 will allow that.

Oh, and a Busa will always be a bulky bike regardless of what exhausts are on it. I've got a Busa, and while it's a pussycat of a bike when just dawdling along...it's also got an alter ego that isn't so sedate haha

[rustyrobot]

Some of my mates tell me not to go with European bikes as they are super expensive to maintain, their parts cost too much etc. So I was hoping to get your input if you happen to be the owner of such bike or otherwise.

It's definitely the case that European bikes cost a little more to service and that parts are harder to find in NZ, and therefore likely to be more expensive. Something that I totally overlooked was how much more a large bike would cost in general over a 250. Expect your petrol costs to double, at least. They take a lot more oil when it comes time for a change and the tyres are significantly more expensive AND disappear quicker (depending on the bike and your riding). And make sure you are sitting down when you ask about the cost of insurance, especially if you are under 25.

I'm not by any means trying to put you off, I'm excited for you and your bike shopping (FUN!). Just make sure you calculate these things first before you splash out on the biggest flashest most expensive bike your budget affords.

[pratik8890]

Don't mean to shit in your sandwich but that isn't going to make the busa any less bulky. You should still get one though, I went from a FZR250 to a FZR1000 for 3 weeks and then a busa. They are a loose bike when you want them to be.

Thanks for the advise mate, whats the regular/ time to time cost involved to maintain your Busa?

[pratik8890]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-651822814.htm


http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-652458485.htm


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Thanks Mossy but i'm not fan of of zx14, I'll rather have zx10r instead.

[pratik8890]

The power of a 1000cc sports bike is great fun but complete overkill on the road in my opinion. If you want a sports bike, buy a 600. Still capable of travelling far too fast, more than capable of speeds that are way more than most people would ever use and you have to ride it hard to get the same result as a 1000.

Thank you for the reply. Yip thats right but I'm been riding my 250 cc Yamaha since last 3 years and I always wanted to rid e a bigger one but I couldnt cos of teh restrictions but not anymore hence the upgrade.