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    Drug testing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    You know most life insurance policies wont pay out if you die competing in motorsport aye?
    MNZ license does. Other than that I have nothing to say here. The IQ of some participants is too low.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Madness View Post
    Fuck you cunts are thick.
    I've read pages and pages of your opinion on the matter. Enlighten me as to why I'm thick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    I've read pages and pages of your opinion on the matter. Enlighten me as to why I'm thick.
    Read them again then ya thick cunt!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skunk View Post
    MNZ license does.

    Will MNZ's cover match my own?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madness View Post
    Read them again then ya thick cunt!
    I addressed your entire argument. Come up with a conclusive way to prove that the THC in a smokers system, is not impairing them.

    "Thick cunt", that's very stern. You took my offensive words to heart then? Though they were directed at no one person? So you know you're a moron, and it upsets you?

    Hmmm. Have you considered therapy for this obviously low self esteem? You might find you can cut back on the drugs a bit ya know, by feeling better about yourself. Just a thought.

    Anyhoo. Back on topic aye. Drug testing at the track is a good thing. Fuck, I'm well aware that the chances of trace THC being in any way playing a part of a fatality are next to nil. Ya know what else I'm aware of? If there is a fatality, and the five oh find out there was THC in a competitors system and decide to audit the testing history by MNZ, and find it lacking....NO ONE WILL BE FUCKEN RACING ANYMORE.

    So, while I might be thick, while Madness is trying to overcome his personal issues, and while Katman continues to push my buttons even when I'm aware of it, drug testing = good things. Smoking weed = bad things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveyb View Post

    The science of cause and effect of THC and alcohol (being the two most common recreational drugs) is irrefutable.
    Small point, I believe tobacco is the second after Alcohol and before weed. Could be wrong but read that on the Odyssey house website I think.

    In fact just checked it and pasted below. They are talking about addiction.

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    but once again you proved me wrong.
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    I was hit by one such driver while remaining in the view of their mirror.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    I addressed your entire argument. Come up with a conclusive way to prove that the THC in a smokers system, is not impairing them.
    So you're suggesting a "guilty until proven innocent approach" is taken then?

    Quote Originally Posted by Drew
    "Thick cunt", that's very stern. You took my offensive words to heart then? Though they were directed at no one person? So you know you're a moron, and it upsets you?

    Hmmm. Have you considered therapy for this obviously low self esteem? You might find you can cut back on the drugs a bit ya know, by feeling better about yourself. Just a thought.
    Nah, I just reckon you're a thick cunt. Stop trying to seem intelligent, it isn't working.

    Quote Originally Posted by Drew
    Anyhoo. Back on topic aye. Drug testing at the track is a good thing. Fuck, I'm well aware that the chances of trace THC being in any way playing a part of a fatality are next to nil. Ya know what else I'm aware of? If there is a fatality, and the five oh find out there was THC in a competitors system and decide to audit the testing history by MNZ, and find it lacking....NO ONE WILL BE FUCKEN RACING ANYMORE.
    Like there's no more hot-air-ballooning any more? Failed argument & ever so slightly over-dramatic. Par for the course for you lot though, innit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    drug testing = good things. Smoking weed = bad things.
    For bike racing I believe it is very important. Nobody want to lose a loved one to an "impaired" person. Be it through sport or work.

    Do you want the mechanic on your car to have had a big night before he works on your car?
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    but once again you proved me wrong.
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    I was hit by one such driver while remaining in the view of their mirror.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madness View Post
    So you're suggesting a "guilty until proven innocent approach" is taken then?
    Not at all. Guilt is proven by the detection of an illegal substance in the testees (hehehe, I been waiting to drop that wee gem) system. What's there that MNZ need to prove after that?




    Quote Originally Posted by Madness View Post
    Nah, I just reckon you're a thick cunt. Stop trying to seem intelligent, it isn't working.
    Far from it. I'm just good old fashioned poking fun at you. It's easy ya see, and since I can be a bit of a bully at times, it amuses me.




    Quote Originally Posted by Madness View Post
    Like there's no more hot-air-ballooning any more? Failed argument & ever so slightly over-dramatic. Par for the course for you lot though, innit?
    You're suggesting that given the recent years and four (five if that bucket meet was an MNZ event) deaths, MNZ aren't looked at with a bloody microscope. Think about that if you can fight through the haze for just a moment.

    I don't give a rats arse if anyone does drugs. Christ knows I do. But if someone is stupid enough not to give it a rest a while before they go racing, then they are just dumb enough that I wouldn't want them anywhere near me on the track.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
    For bike racing I believe it is very important. Nobody want to lose a loved one to an "impaired" person. Be it through sport or work.

    Do you want the mechanic on your car to have had a big night before he works on your car?
    If I were to pay for a car or bike to be fixed, (and I'd need to be on my death bed before I did), I would expect that the reason I am paying such a premium is that the employer has drug and alcohol policies in place to protect me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    drug testing = good things. Indeterminate testing methods = bad things.
    Fixed it for ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    I don't give a rats arse if anyone does drugs. Christ knows I do. But if someone is stupid enough not to give it a rest a while before they go racing, then they are just dumb enough that I wouldn't want them anywhere near me on the track.
    Best you give it a rest for two whole months before your next drug-tested race meet then. Otherwise it's Armageddon!

    Quote Originally Posted by Drew View Post
    Not at all. Guilt is proven by the detection of an illegal substance in the testees (hehehe, I been waiting to drop that wee gem) system. What's there that MNZ need to prove after that?
    If that was "right" then wouldn't the popo & the "justice" system be taking the same approach in upholding the law (seeing as it's their job to uphold the law)? Yeah, they probably would, but they don't. That's because is aint right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madness View Post
    Fixed it for ya.
    Are you losing focus? That's a poor effort.

    Whether or not the test is conclusive in determining if someone is 'under the influence', is moot.

    Participants are warned they may be tested for drugs. They have, no less, agreed in a formal contract NOT to be under the influence at the race track. That there is no test for sobriety, but only for presence is not MNZs fault or problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madness View Post
    Best you give it a rest for two whole months before your next drug-tested race meet then. Otherwise it's Armageddon!
    I don't smoke weed. Can't handle the stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madness View Post
    Best you give it a rest for two whole months . Otherwise it's Addiction!
    Fixed for ya.
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    but once again you proved me wrong.
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    I was hit by one such driver while remaining in the view of their mirror.

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