MotoGP 2013

[Crasherfromwayback]

i guess he is 80% of the problem and he can't sack himself......

I'm thinking closer to 95%

[husaberg]

I'm thinking closer to 95%

don't know he is a real talent, but does he really still have the desire to win at all costs, does he still have the drive..........
Time will tell... maybe he needs everyone to right him off, he might need his back against the wall to succeed.

[Crasherfromwayback]

don't know he is a real talent, but does he really still have the desire to win at all costs, does he still have the drive..........
Time will tell... maybe he needs everyone to right him off, he might need his back against the wall to succeed.

I think the goal posts have simply been moved mate...and he hasn't been able to move with them. It started with Stoner.

[Bender]

I think the goal posts have simply been moved mate...and he hasn't been able to move with them. It started with Stoner.

^^^^
This.

Rossi was dumbfounded when he got on the Ducati and realised that Stoner had been able to beat him - even win a world championship - on this machinery. It rocked his confidence to the core and I don't believe he has been able to get it back. He can't get front end feel on the bike that his team mate, GL, is riding with the fastest mid corner speed in the pack. Maybe the missing front end feel can be found somewhere between Rossi's left ear and right ear.

Great rider he is, without a doubt. But his time has come and gone, the same as it did with Ago, Hailwood, Garnder, Schwantz, Spencer Doohan et al.

MM has set a new standard, riding the bike in a new way - a distillation of the Stoner riding style but perfected in his own way. He's the new Saarinen.

I'm wondering more and more, whether the riders we have been watching are simply second rate and have been since Doohan retired. Rossi was good enough for them, but he isn't good enough for this generation - even Bradl & Bautista on 'B-spec' bikes are giving him a hard time.

[Crasherfromwayback]

^^^^
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I'm wondering more and more, whether the riders we have been watching are simply second rate and have been since Doohan retired. Rossi was good enough for them, but he isn't good enough for this generation - even Bradl & Bautista on 'B-spec' bikes are giving him a hard time.

Lol. Don't dare to go there mate. I've already mentioned this a fair few times! Some people can't handle the truth when they're in love.

[Drew]

Lol. Don't dare to go there mate. I've already mentioned this a fair few times! Some people can't handle the truth when they're in love.

I think you want us to take it more personally, than we really do.

Rossi was the spectacle for a long time. He changed the sport, and was near unbeatable until Lorenzo stopped crashing, and Stoner showed up.

He's not the best anymore. Never will be again. He's got no answer for the younger guys, and I think he knows that too.

The Burgess thing, I don't understand. It's easy to want Rossi to not be the bad guy, as a fan. But if what we're reading is to be believed there's just no other way to look at it. I guess it's a similar thing to the old saying, 'never meet your heroes'. Given how long he's been in the media and how closely he's followed, there shouldn't be any surprise that he will disappoint at some stage.

[husaberg]

^^^^
This.

Rossi was dumbfounded when he got on the Ducati and realised that Stoner had been able to beat him - even win a world championship - on this machinery. It rocked his confidence to the core and I don't believe he has been able to get it back. He can't get front end feel on the bike that his team mate, GL, is riding with the fastest mid corner speed in the pack. Maybe the missing front end feel can be found somewhere between Rossi's left ear and right ear.

Great rider he is, without a doubt. But his time has come and gone, the same as it did with Ago, Hailwood, Garnder, Schwantz, Spencer Doohan et al.

wash your mouth out
Hailwood, Doohan, kev all left at the top of their Game. Gardner and kev were far to banged up,kev lost the fun factor after Rainey)and had Spencer was burnt after the double and the ops didn't work to fix the pump.
Ya missed Lawson BTW how could you miss Lawson and Roberts............

[denill]

wash your mouth out
Hailwood, Doohan, kev all left at the top of their Game. Gardner and kev were far to banged up,kev lost the fun factor after Rainey)and had Spencer was burnt after the double and the ops didn't work to fix the pump.
Ya missed Lawson BTW how could you miss Lawson and Roberts............

And Stoner?

[Bender]

They fall into the "et al" category, which simply means I thought the list was getting too long. Those champions retired for various reaons that are irrelevant, other than they left the scene.

[husaberg]

They fall into the "et al" category, which simply means I thought the list was getting too long. Those champions retired for various reaons that are irrelevant, other than they left the scene.

nah ya not getting off that easily you said they were left behind by better riders this was not the case.
what ever the list lawson should have been on it not, Gardner no mater how much i admired him he was no Lawson.......

And Stoner?

As for Stoner nah didn't rate him, electronics made him look better than he was.

[denill]

I have long had the opinion that it's sad when good riders hang in too long. Frankie Chilli is a good example, as is Colin Edwards. It's not like they need the money?

For that matter, Val probably has Jeremy a good turn, as at age 60 he doesn't need it.

[denill]

As for Stoner nah didn't rate him, electronics made him look better than he was.

Bloody troll

[husaberg]

Bloody troll

its not a troll its my opinion.......i don't think he was in the class of Mick Dohaan or Eddie lawson, Wayne R or Kev S
the bikes these guy rode on were RAW........

shit Casey even would like to have a go with them by the sound of it.

Stoner has stated that he would prefer to shun the limelight and would prefer to let his riding style do the talking. In a recent interview with Australian Motorcycle News, he was quoted as saying that he would prefer a return to purer form of racing from the 500cc days, stating that "Back in those days, it was just racing – Doohan, Rainey, Schwantz, Gardner, Lawson – not half as much bullshit as now. That was the life." compared to the racing that he participates in.

Chilli was esp fun to watch and his one off on the Cagiva 2 stroke a year after they retired was awesome........

Coin Edwards, i never rated him either at first, but i guess he did deliver for Honda eventually in WSB, why he's stuck around not quite sure.
He was made to look ordinary by most his team mates.
Just as Slight beat most of his teamates but wasn't rated by most which was a bit unfair.......

[actungbaby]

[QUOTE=pritch;1130635575]The JB sacking still dominates the news. Azi Farni (BBC) and others feel JB should have been treated with more respect.
Totally dude he comes across as nice bloke good natured too , he stuck in there hasint he

The timing was dictated by a leak to an Italian website. Rossi blames some "fucking journalist". But the leak originated in Tavullia so is the blame belongs closer to home.

Rossi is adamant that he can still compete on equal terms with DP MM & JL. Consensus in the paddock is that he can't. One pundit says we'll know by this time next year. We'll know long before that.

Ever one has there day sad but true . smacks of tiger woods with his caddy.

[actungbaby]

I think you want us to take it more personally, than we really do.

Rossi was the spectacle for a long time. He changed the sport, and was near unbeatable until Lorenzo stopped crashing, and Stoner showed up.

He's not the best anymore. Never will be again. He's got no answer for the younger guys, and I think he knows that too.

The Burgess thing, I don't understand. It's easy to want Rossi to not be the bad guy, as a fan. But if what we're reading is to be believed there's just no other way to look at it. I guess it's a similar thing to the old saying, 'never meet your heroes'. Given how long he's been in the media and how closely he's followed, there shouldn't be any surprise that he will disappoint at some stage.

Yes he is human i just think people make to much of him and in his case it hasint umm

made him better person for it ;-)