Legal age for pillions in NZ?

**rustyrobot** · 18th November 2013, 14:41

Originally Posted by superjackal

What type of helmut would be required for her? A motorcycle specific helmet or just a bicyclists helmet?

Helmet safety standards

An approved motorcycle helmet is one that complies with one or more of the approved international standards:

UN/ECE Regulation No. 22: Protective helmets and their visors for drivers and passengers of motorcycles and mopeds (Europe)
Australian Standard AS 1698: Protective helmets for vehicle users
New Zealand Standard NZS 5430: Protective helmets for vehicle users
Snell Memorial Foundation: Helmet Standard for use in motorcycling
Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 218: Motorcycle helmets
British Standard BS 6658: Specification for protective helmets for vehicle users (for type A helmets only)
Japan Industrial Standard T8133.

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/ro...ight-gear.html

**tigertim20** · 18th November 2013, 16:34

really, once youre on the bike and riding, who the fuck's going to know how old the kid is anyway?

unless you've bet someone as to what the answer is?

**mhm** · 18th November 2013, 16:37

ive been picking my boy up from the age of 4 and riding 1km home from daycare,been seen by cops and never pulled over and he was wearing a motorcross helmet as i couldn't find a road bike helmet small enough

**Erelyes** · 18th November 2013, 20:12

Originally Posted by superjackal

Interesting question. My daughter's 6 and I pick her up from school. She usually sits on the front and we ride home at walking speed on the pavement. She LOVES it. Would be easier/faster as a pillion.

What type of helmut would be required for her? A motorcycle specific helmet or just a bicyclists helmet?

Sorry if this is hijacking....!

If she isn't wearing a helmet you could be done for it... and you could be done since she isn't pillion!

**nzspokes** · 18th November 2013, 20:21

I saw a guy the other day in Titirangi taking his kid home on the back of his bike, he was AGAT. His boy had a helmet and shorts.

**Floppy disk** · 18th November 2013, 20:25

Originally Posted by Erelyes

If she isn't wearing a helmet you could be done for it... and you could be done since she isn't pillion!

I think he is just taking the piss.

**TimeOut** · 19th November 2013, 05:10

Originally Posted by Floppy disk

I think he is just taking the piss.

No it doesn't have to be a road, road rules still apply in a public place i.e. beach, carpark, pavement.

**Geeen** · 19th November 2013, 08:53

Originally Posted by superjackal

Interesting question. My daughter's 6 and I pick her up from school. She usually sits on the front and we ride home at walking speed on the pavement. She LOVES it. Would be easier/faster as a pillion.

What type of helmut would be required for her? A motorcycle specific helmet or just a bicyclists helmet?

Sorry if this is hijacking....!

Have a look at these, most dealers in NZ can get them and they are $150ish, Got one for my spawn......

Originally Posted by TimeOut

No it doesn't have to be a road, road rules still apply in a public place i.e. beach, carpark, pavement.

True, any place that is accessable to the public is classed as public road including carparks riverbed etc

**Grumpy** · 19th November 2013, 13:22

I raised the same question with the local police and was told the only issue is whether the kid can comfortably touch the pegs. My daughter has been riding since she was. I did however take some steps to improve her safety on the back. I wear a belt with some grips for her to hang onto. That was easier than me trying to lose my belly. I also found online a harness for her to wear. It attaches to a pad that I sit on so that she is secure as we ride. If the worst happens and we hit the road then she's not attached to me or the bike. Good piece of mind, especially for Mum.

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**rustyrobot** · 19th November 2013, 13:58

Originally Posted by Grumpy

I also found online a harness for her to wear. It attaches to a pad that I sit on so that she is secure as we ride.

Hey that's a great idea - do you know the name so I can look it up?

**Erelyes** · 19th November 2013, 14:09

Originally Posted by rustyrobot

Hey that's a great idea - do you know the name so I can look it up?

http://www.cycletreads.co.nz/product...pillions_.aspx

**Grumpy** · 19th November 2013, 15:41

Originally Posted by Erelyes

http://www.cycletreads.co.nz/product...pillions_.aspx

Very similar. Works great.

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**Road kill** · 19th November 2013, 16:25

I used to ride on the back of my old mans Goldflash when I was about 10 years old and it was one of the few things in life that actually seemed good at the time.

On the other hand I've never taken my own kids on my bikes because I didn't want to lose them due to my own or some other persons stupidity.

I read a lot into how people want their kids to ride on the back for "their" reasons,,,,but their reasons never have anything to do with the kids welfare in mind.

If somebody wants their kids to get into bikes there's a lot of ways to go about it without placing their lives at risk in road traffic.

Mind you,I don't actually see many people that are stupid enough to do that to their own off spring apart from a few KB fools that are mostly talk anyway,,,,and my old man.