FOR SALE - Drew and Alan's sidecar build

**Drew** · 23rd December 2013, 18:46

Originally Posted by Deano

Ah so was it you that dented my gennie ?

Na, different retard all together.

**swarfie** · 23rd December 2013, 21:08

Originally Posted by Drew

It lives again!!!!

Someone is going to have to explain the brand new bucket shim I found stuck to the crank angle pickup though.

You should go into business selling spare parts for Kwakas mate...you seem to have plenty of them

**Drew** · 24th December 2013, 05:39

Originally Posted by swarfie

You should go into business selling spare parts for Kwakas mate...you seem to have plenty of them

I hope this motor runs alright. Seems that random bits floating through the engine are almost required.

**nodrog:Me** · 24th December 2013, 08:43

Originally Posted by Deano

Ah so was it you that dented my gennie ?

Spare parts ?

What happened to your gennie? You guys are like peas and carrots.

**Deano** · 24th December 2013, 09:28

Originally Posted by nodrog

What happened to your gennie? You guys are like peas and carrots.

An uncoordinated fat sidecar racer or swinger stood on it while throwing a cone onto Drew and Al's truck, denting it in the process.

**Drew** · 25th December 2013, 05:58

Fucken oil seeps out of the sump/cases join. Other than that, it's better than before.

Must have a play with the cam angle sensor at a test day I think. When it was advanced a bit far, the thing was responsive as all fuck once we got it started.

Mind, the timing gets altered by the ECU depending on which gear it's in. Must build a timing retard eliminator.

Will it ever be finished I wonder?

**shafty** · 26th December 2013, 05:24

Originally Posted by nodrog

What happened to your gennie? You guys are like peas and carrots.

Hey Nodrog, spotted yr truck at our Motel - good luck for today !!!!

Shafty

**Drew** · 26th December 2013, 19:43

Didn't even make it to practice this time.

Getting pretty fucking old varying this thing round to watch other people race!

See y'all at Ruapuna... After we fix it properly this time.

**Shaun Harris** · 27th December 2013, 09:01

Good luck Drew

**Drew** · 27th December 2013, 10:42

Cheers Shaun.

We pulled the sump off today, to find that I haven't fucked up when altering the sump posts that hold in the little oil carrier tubes to the gearbox shafts.

That sucks and makes me feel better at the same time. I haven't fucked it up, but we still don't know the issue.

There are several sources on various websites that talk about air locks in oil filters on the '03 ZX12, and having to 'burp' them while turning the motor over. I've never heard of this before, and would hope that the engineer who came up with the design got fucking sacked!

We took the clutch cover off to make sure the oil and water pump drive shaft hadn't lost it's locator circlip, and it hasn't.

So it's pump out tomorrow to make sure it's not fucked, then back together and try to bleed the oil filter and see what happens.

I'm less than impressed to say the least, four days out from going to the national points races to have an undiagnosed problem...more so since the oil pump from our '00 and '01 motors is different to the '03, should that turn out to be the problem.

**pete376403** · 27th December 2013, 13:42

I know an engine builder (a good one) packing oil pumps with vaseline prior to installing, to make sure the pump would pickup oil on the first startup. A few blobs of vaseline in the oil did no harm.

**Grumph** · 27th December 2013, 14:07

Originally Posted by pete376403

I know an engine builder (a good one) packing oil pumps with vaseline prior to installing, to make sure the pump would pickup oil on the first startup. A few blobs of vaseline in the oil did no harm.

I prefer a moly assembly lube....but both work.

Drew - can you disconnect an external oil line and motor it over till you get oil at that point ? I assume that whatever oil pressure indicator you're using aint showing anything ? If you can get oil from the pump, it may show your indicator system is faulty....

**Edbear** · 27th December 2013, 15:25

Originally Posted by Grumph

I prefer a moly assembly lube....but both work.

Drew - can you disconnect an external oil line and motor it over till you get oil at that point ? I assume that whatever oil pressure indicator you're using aint showing anything ? If you can get oil from the pump, it may show your indicator system is faulty....

Sidecars have indicators?

Sorry... slow day.

**Drew** · 27th December 2013, 16:12

Originally Posted by Grumph

I prefer a moly assembly lube....but both work.

Drew - can you disconnect an external oil line and motor it over till you get oil at that point ? I assume that whatever oil pressure indicator you're using aint showing anything ? If you can get oil from the pump, it may show your indicator system is faulty....

Can take the pressure sender out to test for actual pressure rather than indicated. Thumb over the hole type deal, like checking compression on an old two stroke styles.

The thing that has me fucked, and almost lends weight to the airlock theory is that we HAD oil pressure. We didn't take a race bike with a new motor without having started it. The weight lent would be that as the motor got up to operating temp, any air bubble would expand and then cause issue.

We'll know more tomorrow when I pull the pump out...Where do I get this 'Moly assembly lube' from?