Lane splitting letter to DomPost 27 Dec 2013

[Moi]

Go back through this thread and find Rastuscat's contribution in which he gives the link to the Land Transport Act...

A wee bit of holiday reading...

[Ntoxcated]

Perversely, the usual opinion is that passing on the left is "bad", but this next bit seems to support it in the way passing on the right is assumed to be supported:

2.8 Passing on left
(1) A driver must not pass or attempt to pass on the left of another vehicle moving in the same direction except in accordance with this clause.
...
(3) If the roadway is marked in lanes, the driver may make the movement referred in subclause (1) only if the driver's vehicle does not encroach on a lane that is unavailable to a driver.

It only seems to support it if you omit subclause 2.

(2) In any case in which the movement referred to subclause (1) may be made,

(a) the 2 vehicles must be in different lanes; or
(b) the overtaken vehicle must be stationary or its driver must have given or be giving the prescribed signal of that driver's intention to turn right; or
(c) if the overtaken vehicle is a light rail vehicle moving in the same direction, the light rail vehicle must not be—

(i) signalling an intention to turn left or to stop; or
(ii) stationary for the purposes of allowing passengers to alight or board.

[R650R]

Yeah read that too, sounds like he made it up as he went, especially the quoted part. Nothing in legislation is ever worded that way or so specifically, they love to leave some greyness in there.
Don't think we should be worried about one angry man talking about the very few bikes like BMW tar have hazard flashers. Papers should be held to account for printing nonsense like that.
Just for kicks, every motorbike rider that reads dompost should write in about car driver offences they witnessing the ngauranga gorge lol...

[pratik8890]

Totally agree with this bit with minor correction. Splitting is a privelege that, if not treated with an appropriate level of respect and personal responsibility, can turn nasty very quickly. Done properly, however, you're safer between the lanes than taking the risk of being caught up in a concertina brought about by stop-start traffic.


Commute on the Auckland motorway long enough and it becomes "necessary" in as much as lots of time is saved and you won't get rear-ended.


The feeling I get is that those that complain about it know nothing of which they speak. They've probably never done it and most probably never ridden a motorcycle at all. A lot are just jealous of how quick we can get through traffic.

+1 on your post, I just like to add one more to thing to this- I find most of the car drivers have no clue about riding motorbikes and thats one of the reason theyre mad at us and a very few who do are just concerned and thats pretty much it really.

Any chance you can find the law regarding that? I'd never heard that one. Definitely interested to see what the wording is.

Make that two of us!

[rastuscat]

Any chance you can find the law regarding that? I'd never heard that one. Definitely interested to see what the wording is.

Law of Transportation
Land Transport (Road User) Rule 2004

6.4 Parking contrary to notice, traffic sign, or marking
(4) A driver or person in charge of a vehicle must not stop, stand, or park the vehicle on any part of a roadway where the road controlling authority has marked a broken yellow line parallel to, and at a distance of not more than 1 m from, the edge of the roadway.

It'd be somewhere in case law, as the rule itself doesn't include or exclude the area inside the yellow painted thingys.

[rastuscat]

Go back through this thread and find Rastuscat's contribution in which he gives the link to the Land Transport Act...

A wee bit of holiday reading...

DEAR GOD NO!!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't start reading it. It will consume you !!!

Ahah !! A New Strategy..............get Akzle to read the law........it might just consume him.........and if not, he'll finally know what it says...............

[rastuscat]

Just read the 5 case laws on file.

None mention the "it's okay to park on the inside of the yellow lines" exemption.

Maybe it's like ricking horse poo........non-existent. Still makes a great story.

[dangerous]

Any chance you can find the law regarding that? I'd never heard that one. Definitely interested to see what the wording is.

Hey im going back to when ya were safe if ya shot up ya drive from the law if being chased that is... No boubt the books been updated, but i still no no differance
Loop holes they are every were... End of the day as the clash said... 'I fort the law and the law won'

[Berries]

Just read the 5 case laws on file.

None mention the "it's okay to park on the inside of the yellow lines" exemption.

Maybe it's like ricking horse poo........non-existent. Still makes a great story.

Too late to bother searching, it'll be in the TCD Rule Part 13 somewhere, but if signs are used then you cannot stop between them, if markings are used then you cannot stop on the road between them. Difference being the amount of space between the road and the edge of the road reserve. You can legally park behind the dotted yellow lines if you are off the road, like on the sealed/unsealed shoulder, but not on a footpath which is a whole different offence, whereas if signs are used you cannot stop between them at all. Plenty of examples around where the council/NZTA permit parking behind no stopping lines. Trying to fit a bike in the 200mm between the lines and a kerb is going to result in a ticket you will end up paying.

Edit - See Figure 6.3 in Section 6.2 of the TCD Rule Part 13 Parking Control.

[Akzle]

dom post? fucken, so these bastards were "reporting" on some mass-shooting in the us.
on 999 days of 1000, i don't give a shit about the us.
BUT, in their reporting, they had a photo of an m16 looking thing, captioned
"a military style semi automatic like the one used in the [emotive] killing of children" - this is a term from new zealand legislation, would not have likely been found in the american report/inquest into the shooting.

this is LIKELY propaganda.
i have no knowledge of what the actual weapon is/was, whether it was a stock photo or evidential.
it struck me as odd that it even needed to be included, and particularly that the term MSSA needed to be mentioned.

anyway. just more from akz' eye on the world. and fuck wellington.

[Berries]

Surely propaganda is spouting completely unrelated shit somewhere where it is not wanted? How lane splitting morphed in to assault rifles I don't know. And who gives a fuck about the US anyway?

[Akzle]

Surely propaganda is spouting completely unrelated shit somewhere where it is not wanted? How lane splitting morphed in to assault rifles I don't know. And who gives a fuck about the US anyway?

it was in the dom post. Relevant.
It was a nz term, in nz paper. Idgaf about the actual incident.
Also, 100% of people who write for the paper without being paid are probably morons.

[WilDun]

dom post? fucken, so these bastards were "reporting" on some mass-shooting in the us.


anyway. just more from akz' eye on the world. and fuck wellington.

Bottom line re: lane splitting, - use your head (not to bash a car with).

The dialogue in the last post sums up the infantile mentality of some bike riders, - if you are a pinhead with nothing useful to say, then fill in the gaps with meaningless jargon! - Time to join the grown-ups (as best you can).

As for your last line, that says it all, I must say that with your attitude, you are doing an admirable job of making everyone think exactly that about Wellington!
I personally found Wellington fine and most Aucklanders generally think the same way - are you neurotic or something?

Who cares what the lunatics in the US do.

[Headbanger]

End of the day, Cunts on bikes are doing some stupid shit through the gorge.

Seen it many a time.

[Akzle]

Bottom line re: lane splitting, - use your head (not to bash a car with).

The dialogue in the last post sums up the infantile mentality of some bike riders, - if you are a pinhead with nothing useful to say, then fill in the gaps with meaningless jargon! - Time to join the grown-ups (as best you can).

As for your last line, that says it all, I must say that with your attitude, you are doing an admirable job of making everyone think exactly that about Wellington!
I personally found Wellington fine and most Aucklanders generally think the same way - are you neurotic or something?

Who cares what the lunatics in the US do.

what the fuck kind of jew auckland motherfucker are you?
have you heard of trolling?
i'm pro.