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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    Wrong. If you want to keep the result of your effort then presumably you worked out that the effort was worth the result before you started.

    If the result of your effort is to exchange for other stuff then the person buying it values it in terms of market value, in units called money.
    It's not a given that the result of ones effort is financial. Pretty hard for anyone to take that away.

    That is not always the case. Those who work for free i.e. volunteers, don't count their results in financial terms. In fact sharing information without any exchange is another example. But yeah, certain things are valued financially, go figure given that we live in a financial economy. Tis just another unrequired middleman along with the system that supports it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1
    Oh I know you understand that hard work would still be needed. What you don't understand is that, given that everything about your plan is aimed at removing the link between producer and consumer and controlling rewards yourself you simply won't be getting any hard work. I don't care how altruistic you claim everyone is, the fact is almost all hard work is done as the result of reward. No reward: No work.

    FFS you currently get no work from a significant part of the population that are rewarded anyway, what the fuck makes you think that situation would improve if you removed ALL of the incentive to work?

    No, let's be honest, you're arseholeing of money is a moronic reaction to your cultural dislike of the "upper class". A dislike so ingrained it discolours everything you see. You're a sad, irrelevant wee man a hundred years late for a minor class war that happened half a planet away.
    Why should I understand that when it can't be predicted? You're looking into a future at a system you don't understand and you're stating that everyone in the country won't work hard, when required, because they aren't going to receive a reward. Bit arrogant speaking for everyone wouldn't you say. Who's claiming that people are altruistic? It's far simpler than thinking about why you're doing something. As for reward... jesus you really think that everyone looks at the transaction between themselves and their employer in terms of no reward, no work. If that was the case we'd all be getting paid up front. We do a job and get money. Amusing that you see that as a reward, I don't, neither does the highly capitalistic Mrs M. Yes, if she wasn't getting paid she wouldn't go to work, but she certainly doesn't see it as a reward. Would she still go to her job under NOW, yes she would. I hope that little bombshell didn't pop anything important. Now answer me, why would she still go to work under NOW?

    You might want to read that FFS sentence again as it answers an awful lot of questions that you seem to be having trouble understanding. Hint: The are incintivised, they are rewarded, yet you get no work from them.

    bwaaaaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaa... You got me bang to rights. You put Derren Brown to shame. I'm glad you know my mind better than I do... I feel so much better NOW, I might just cry. Then again I could just ask if you feel better after your highly amusing, utterly missing the point mini rant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1
    Excellent. I look forward to hearing how you plan on remunerating all that hard work you claim would continue unabated in your brave new world. Actually I look forward to my evening constitutional crap with more enthusiasm, but apparently I have to practice being polite.

    And I plan on continuing to exercise that choice.
    I didn't say unabated and I've already explained that there will be no remuneration... so you'll be waiting a long time.
    If the lady is leaning in your ear, say hi from me, give kisses n hugs etc... but tell her to mind her own business and deal to me as you will, coz you've got fuck all old man.

    Good for you, you must feel so excited.
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1 View Post
    No, what stops me is the need for coherence in communication.

    Something you might try... if you choose.
    I try not to speak capitalist anymore... it makes me feel unclean.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1
    Context? Fuck off, you said you didn't say something, I proved you did, you were wrong.

    Again.
    And I said you didn't have the correct context... ya know, I reckon I know better on this occasion.

    Again.


    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1
    I just told you the reason, the facts don't fit your story, you do it every time you don't like the facts.
    That wasn't the reason I gave.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1
    Like that.
    Sorry, you said something stupid and instead of dignifying it with a response I decided to laugh.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ocean1
    Otherwise known as a voting majority. A distinction you like to reserve for opinions you agree with.
    They are... doesn't make them right if they're ill-informed though does it? That just makes them sheep. Is that how you like 'em, young, dumb and preferably covered with dags? putting words in my mouth again eh. Really? Are you really not over that yet? Don't worry, I'll be patient.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    fuck. Did i completely miss the python.
    Have i mentioned the drugs?
    Nah, you didn't mention the drugs but thanks for reminding me....
    I need a bong after the last 3 pages

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    fuck. Did i completely miss the python.
    Have i mentioned the drugs?
    "So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banditbandit View Post
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    nope.

    "...but monsieur, it is wafer thin?"
    Last edited by Akzle; 29th January 2014 at 12:18. Reason: sorry gremlin, i'll go and spank myself.

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    Finally something vitally important for NZers to have a referendum on.... I know I can't wait to not vote on that either.
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    Finally something vitally important for NZers to have a referendum on.... I know I can't wait to not vote on that either.

    HEY!

    that shit fucking matters, OK?

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    How about this?

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    Yeh those can replace the Southern cross stars!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post

    HEY!

    that shit fucking matters, OK?
    But, I'm not Silver or Black.
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mashman View Post
    But, I'm not Silver or Black.
    no. It matters because it will give more defacto legitimacy to teh govt.
    The only flag LEGALLY recognised (by royal assent) is the fed tribes.
    The jack and blue is the nz ENSIGN, not flag.
    LEGALLY accepting another flag would, by statute, null and void the sovereignty of the fed flag.

    Flags are normally changed by revolution/regime. I dont support jewkeys regime.
    Dont get conned into voting for that shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    no. It matters because it will give more defacto legitimacy to teh govt.
    The only flag LEGALLY recognised (by royal assent) is the fed tribes.
    The jack and blue is the nz ENSIGN, not flag.
    .
    So
    1) why is it not a flag,
    2) if it isn't then why did it become NZ's flag in 1902.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoristheBiter View Post
    So
    1) why is it not a flag,
    2) if it isn't then why did it become NZ's flag in 1902.
    you tell me jemius.

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    So - DonKey will accept the findings of this referendum will he???


    Quote Originally Posted by puddytat View Post
    How about this?

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    Naaa .. been done ... unless we are going to become a state of the great satan ...
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    John Key uses Distraction!

    Its Super Effective!
    Physics; Thou art a cruel, heartless Bitch-of-a-Mistress

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