MotoGP 2014

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yep. But seeing as the customers buy the bike they can then make larger tanks themselves if they want to, not like the lease arrangements the satellite teams have.

Quite poss true unless Honda lean on them...which lets face it...they're no stranger to.

[trev]

My understanding is that for the first 2 years only HRC staff can work on the bikes (or maybe engines only) but that may extend to controlling major changes e.g. fitting larger fuel tanks

[Mental Trousers]

My understanding is that for the first 2 years only HRC staff can work on the bikes (or maybe engines only) but that may extend to controlling major changes e.g. fitting larger fuel tanks

Awesome. €1.2M and you're not even allowed to change the oil for 2 years.

[carbonhed]

Damn I'm looking forward to Tuesday and the start of testing!

[pritch]

Was reading somewhere the other day that Honda are charging only US$700,000 for the optional extra seamless gearbox.

Meanwhile the troops are all en route to Sepang by now.

[Mental Trousers]

Was reading somewhere the other day that Honda are charging only US$700,000 for the optional extra seamless gearbox.

Pretty sure that's lease only. So you keep the bike but give the gearbox back.

[trev]

FFS I see Yamaha are only providing 5 engines to the "open class" teams that buy an engine even though they are allowed 12.

[tail_end_charlie]

David Emmetts' preview of the Sepang 1 test for 2014.

Bout fucking time we're getting back to bikes on track!!!!

[DidJit]

Aye.

[husaberg]

Awesome. €1.2M and you're not even allowed to change the oil for 2 years.

For that money you shouldn't have to either........ kind of makes a mockery of getting rid of the 125 2 stokes based on the cost of the Aprilias doesn't it..........

[Badjelly]

David Emmetts' preview of the Sepang 1 test for 2014.

A great article, as usual, from David.

One thing that's only just occurred to me is that the Yamaha's high-corner-speed style--as well as being the preference of the Yamaha engineers, of Jorge and of Valentino before him--is forced on them by the need to save fuel: you go as fast as possible thru the corners to minimise the fuel used in accelerating up to speed out of the corner. Why do they need to do it when Honda don't? Well, maybe Honda do have better engineers. But the Yamaha has an extra shaft to reverse the engine rotation direction, and this soaks up (to the best of my memory) 3-5% of the power. The Yamaha design was brilliantly successful when it was introduced in 2004, but right now with the fuel limits it's going up a blind alley.

[Mental Trousers]

For that money you shouldn't have to either........ kind of makes a mockery of getting rid of the 125 2 stokes based on the cost of the Aprilias doesn't it..........

At €1.2M you'd want the choice of who changes the oil to be yours.

The 125 class is meant to be low cost, leasing a bike for >$1M isn't low cost. The top class has always been much more expensive. Even if rules are put in place that make it cheaper MotoGP is always going to be at least 10x more expensive than Moto3.

[husaberg]

At €1.2M you'd want the choice of who changes the oil to be yours.

The 125 class is meant to be low cost, leasing a bike for >$1M isn't low cost. The top class has always been much more expensive. Even if rules are put in place that make it cheaper MotoGP is always going to be at least 10x more expensive than Moto3.

Nah......the 125's were never a million dollars, about 10 percent of that.
I was meaning that for 1.2 million i ain't paying anyone to change the oil the servicing should be free LOL

The cost of a service contract is believed to run in the low six figures, or pretty close to what it would have cost to lease a top-spec Aprilia RSA at the end of the two-stroke 125cc period. As happens all too often, imposing cost-cutting regulations has merely created even more expensive loopholes.

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/raci...-costs-curbed/
from memory people baulked at the 200K for a NSR500 for a year in the 90's

[Mental Trousers]

Nah......the 125's were never a million dollars, about 10 percent of that.
I was meaning that for 1.2 million i ain't paying anyone to change the oil the servicing should be free LOLhttp://www.asphaltandrubber.com/raci...-costs-curbed/

Getting the 125GP and 250GP costs mixed up I think.

Servicing should definitely be free at that price. As it is Honda get to dictate alsorts for those RCV1000's. For instance, if Nicky Hayden were to finish in front of all of the satellite bikes he might find his engine is a bit less responsive next time out and there's nothing him or his team could do about it except complain loudly.

[Shaun Harris]

Getting the 125GP and 250GP costs mixed up I think.

Servicing should definitely be free at that price. As it is Honda get to dictate alsorts for those RCV1000's. For instance, if Nicky Hayden were to finish in front of all of the satellite bikes he might find his engine is a bit less responsive next time out and there's nothing him or his team could do about it except complain loudly.

ummmm, they did sign a contract knowing this