Michelin Pilot Power 3 - Strange wear

[Banditbandit]

I just put a set of these on my Buell yesterday so far they seem superior to the Pirelli's that they replaced

Yeah ... I will never run on Pirellis again ... the shit tyres took one of my mates down hard in the Waioeka Gorge on Friday .. he'd replaced the rear Pirrelli and was going to replace the front ... TOO LATE ... the tyre let go and the Street Triple is totalled and he's in pain and off work (at least he walked away .. )

I haven't run Pirelli's for about six years after I hated them. I MIGHT use Pirellis on a track but never again on the road

I'm back on PR3s on the big Bandit and very thankful I am too ..

[Banditbandit]

Look at the chicken strip FFS, lean it over a bit and they might wear better!

Yeah ... yeah ... mildly funny Drew ..

From the wear pattern I suspect that the rider is opening the throttle coming out of corners (while still lent over) - it's acceleration wear that is showing, not braking wear.

[SMOKEU]

What's so bad about Pirelli tyres?

[BigAl]

From the wear pattern I suspect that the rider is opening the throttle coming out of corners (while still lent over)

Isn't that the idea on a motorcycle?

[Banditbandit]

What's so bad about Pirelli tyres?

I've found them to be not as grippy as expected or wanted ... they may be fine on a track, but on the roads in Godzone??? No .. not enough stick.

Half an hour before his off my mates rear tyre - Bridgestone - was hot and sticky ... the front tyre - Pirelli Diablo Corsar - was just hot ... Pirellis might get hot AND sticky on a track, but they certainly don't seem to work on the road ..

Isn't that the idea on a motorcycle?

Yes .. but most frequently I've seen wear patterns from braking ... and little wear patterns from acceleration ..

[hayd3n]

I've found them to be not as grippy as expected or wanted ... they may be fine on a track, but on the roads in Godzone??? No .. not enough stick.

Half an hour before his off my mates rear tyre - Bridgestone - was hot and sticky ... the front tyre - Pirelli Diablo Corsar - was just hot ... Pirellis might get hot AND sticky on a track, but they certainly don't seem to work on the road ..




Yes .. but most frequently I've seen wear patterns from braking ... and little wear patterns from acceleration ..

could have just lowered his air pressure a little, that would aid in the heating of the tyres

[Drew]

I've heard all over the place about twins and tyre wear but i've never had crap mileage from tyres. This set is up to 6700 or so now, and i think the rear might get to 9000, or 10,000. Usually wear everything out evenly.
Really impressed with the general wear of the PP3, held its profile really well. 5000 of those current k's are from zooming around the country.

If I head down the 190/55 route I might have to do a bit of a speed comparison - it's quite a bit taller than the 190/50. Dont need any tickets!
Speed pickup on the RSV is off the rear brake rotor bolts.

You're speedo reads high now, and the 190/55 isn't 5-10% bigger in rolling radious.

Yeah ... I will never run on Pirellis again ... the shit tyres took one of my mates down hard in the Waioeka Gorge on Friday .. he'd replaced the rear Pirrelli and was going to replace the front ... TOO LATE ... the tyre let go and the Street Triple is totalled and he's in pain and off work (at least he walked away .. )

I haven't run Pirelli's for about six years after I hated them. I MIGHT use Pirellis on a track but never again on the road

I'm back on PR3s on the big Bandit and very thankful I am too ..

Never thought I'd reply to a post of yours thus, but here goes.

Are you fucking RETARDED? A shit tyre didn't take your mate down, his inability to recognise that the limit was reached did. And the tyre was due for replacement? Get the dumb fuck off bikes and then join him, if you are gonna say that a brand of tyre caused a crash because the cunts too dumb to show restraint!

Cunt deserves what he got, if his attitude toward the crash mimics yours.

[James Deuce]

Undies, undies, undies, undies, TOOOOGS!

[AllanB]

Height difference between the 190/55 190/50 is not much the 50/55 is the sidewall height in a percentage ratio relative to the tyres width (190).

[Drew]

Height difference between the 190/55 190/50 is not much the 50/55 is the sidewall height in a percentage ratio relative to the tyres width (190).

5% of 190 is 9.5

X2 is 19

X3.141 is 58ish

Rolling radius of 190/50 r17 is greater than 580mm, difference is less than 10%.

[sil3nt]

Never thought I'd reply to a post of yours thus, but here goes.

Are you fucking RETARDED? A shit tyre didn't take your mate down, his inability to recognise that the limit was reached did. And the tyre was due for replacement? Get the dumb fuck off bikes and then join him, if you are gonna say that a brand of tyre caused a crash because the cunts too dumb to show restraint!

Cunt deserves what he got, if his attitude toward the crash mimics yours.

someone had to say it

[Ocean1]

I've seen wear patterns from braking ... and little wear patterns from acceleration ..

Yeah, well, you've got a bandit.

Y'know?

[Mental Trousers]

Anyone else had this experience with the Pilot Power 3? A visible ridge between the different compounds on the rear tyre?
It really stands out when you run your finger over it, bumping down to the edge compound. Handling doesn't appear compromised - profile remaining consistent even after 6000km (photo taken at about 4500km).
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This is a 190/50 R17. Same wear displayed on my partners Power 3 - except a 180/55 R17. Haven't run into it before.

Looks like the outer part has overheated and you've peeled a layer of rubber off it. That's the sort of thing that happens when there's a combination of low tyre pressures, too much preload, too much compression damping, hot surface temperatures and long right hand corners. Usual fix is more air, less preload and less compression damping.

[BigAl]

Looks like the outer part has overheated and you've peeled a layer of rubber off it. That's the sort of thing that happens when there's a combination of low tyre pressures, too much preload, too much compression damping, hot surface temperatures and long right hand corners. Usual fix is more air, less preload and less compression damping.

Nah, I've seen several including mine like this.

It's just the different compounds.

[Devil]

Looks like the outer part has overheated and you've peeled a layer of rubber off it. That's the sort of thing that happens when there's a combination of low tyre pressures, too much preload, too much compression damping, hot surface temperatures and long right hand corners. Usual fix is more air, less preload and less compression damping.

<--- Anal tyre pressure checker. Consistently run at 33/36. Couldn't ask for better in the suspension department - Ohlins forks and shock only tweaked slightly from bike manual to get sag correct.
Left hand side of tyre is identical wear.
If it was an air issue I'm certain I would have noticed squaring off over that distance.
Tyre temp (to the touch) was never excessive. No tearing and no balling. Most K's were in South island and moderate temps. No real scorchers.