Stupid World

[Ocean1]

a comic for those who like it

Yeah. The format sorta defines the target audience doncha think?

And why does he refer to TPP type trade agreements as FREE trade agreements? They're nothing of the sort.

[Ocean1]

There is Plumbers in Aus who only do Dirty work ie sewers and under-houses etc, they charge accordingly...... i guess there is a niche.

Good on them, happy to pay a premium for their services if it means I don't have to do it.

I suspect it's a specialty without much of a future, though, within a decade the specialists will be in the van supervising robots doing the same job better.

[mashman]

Stupid idea.

Pass a law putting contraceptives in the water.

$100000.00 in escrow gets you a year's worth of untreated water.

You can have kids. You've just got to prove you can afford them.

And what happens when you lose your job and/or end up in a situation where you can't afford them eh bright eyes? Best not have them in the first place... and it seemed to work well(ish) in China.

[bogan]

Why not just pass a law that every male must be sterilised after fathering 2 children. Gets both the stupid and the smart, so it'd be more fairererer. But that'll damage the economy, coz them thar menial tasks ain't part-time jobs ya know... and given that most of us are seemingly stupid, there ain't gonna be a hell of a lot of people around innit. I love the rotation idea though, something I'd love to offer with NOW... just to bring the dummies up to smart level should they wish to

I missed the bit where we decided we wanted to keep the stupids around? I like Ocean's Idea better, contribute, and you can have kids; bone idle, and you can't.

[Scuba_Steve]

I missed the bit where we decided we wanted to keep the stupids around? I like Ocean's Idea better, contribute, and you can have kids; bone idle, and you can't.

I can't see politicians putting through a law banning themselves from having kids, can you?

[bogan]

I can't see politicians putting through a law banning themselves from having kids, can you?

The thing about a stupid politician, is they don't realise they are the stupid one. But this is just theorycrafting, and in reality has as much chance of getting put through from top down as NOW or any other radical societal change.

[husaberg]

[mashman]

I missed the bit where we decided we wanted to keep the stupids around? I like Ocean's Idea better, contribute, and you can have kids; bone idle, and you can't.

I missed the bit where we had decided that we decided that we were going to be picky about who lives or dies. I thought Ocean was taking the piss as I didn't think he was that much of an idiotic Nazi. Contraceptive in the water, simply don't drink from the water supply. You could use a hydrogen powered lawnmower engine to purify your water. And what stops you from earning enough to have kids and then just not contributing again? Whilst my suggestion was tongue in cheek, it's have a better chance of success than applying a financial solution to having kids. That and my preferred solution would be to ask people... but you'd need an environment where people accepted that it was the right thing to do, along with education as to why amongst other things. Be funny as fuck to see how you'd calculate who was smart too. Great to see that the spirit of Hitler is a live and well within you guys though... you're an inspiration fr the future of our species.

[bogan]

I missed the bit where we had decided that we decided that we were going to be picky about who lives or dies. I thought Ocean was taking the piss as I didn't think he was that much of an idiotic Nazi. Contraceptive in the water, simply don't drink from the water supply. You could use a hydrogen powered lawnmower engine to purify your water. And what stops you from earning enough to have kids and then just not contributing again? Whilst my suggestion was tongue in cheek, it's have a better chance of success than applying a financial solution to having kids. That and my preferred solution would be to ask people... but you'd need an environment where people accepted that it was the right thing to do, along with education as to why amongst other things. Be funny as fuck to see how you'd calculate who was smart too. Great to see that the spirit of Hitler is a live and well within you guys though... you're an inspiration fr the future of our species.

Not who lives and dies, but who gets to procreate; pretty big difference. Luckily for you though, reading comprehension will not be the only thing tested!

[mashman]

Not who lives and dies, but who gets to procreate; pretty big difference. Luckily for you though, reading comprehension will not be the only thing tested!

Oh, so you're not going to follow it through to its ultimate conclusion? Try telling me whether I can procreate or not and you'll be feeling my foot on your throat as I render you genderless with a filleting knife. I doubt I'd be alone in helping to educate those who would consider such ignorant actions without thinking it through.

[bogan]

Oh, so you're not going to follow it through to its ultimate conclusion? Try telling me whether I can procreate or not and you'll be feeling my foot on your throat as I render you genderless with a filleting knife. I doubt I'd be alone in helping to educate those who would consider such ignorant actions without thinking it through.

So, you would prefer to see everyone you know enjoy the right to breed, so their children live in overcrowding, their grandchildren struggle to find enough food, their great grandchilderen see the worlds ecosystem collapse, and their great great grandchilderen see the end of humanity itself?

Since we don't look like getting off this rock anytime soon, it seems population growth is going to need to be curbed if we want our great grandchilderen to have the quality of life we enjoy.

[mashman]

So, you would prefer to see everyone you know enjoy the right to breed, so their children live in overcrowding, their grandchildren struggle to find enough food, their great grandchilderen see the worlds ecosystem collapse, and their great great grandchilderen see the end of humanity itself?

Since we don't look like getting off this rock anytime soon, it seems population growth is going to need to be curbed if we want our great grandchilderen to have the quality of life we enjoy.

I think everyone should have the right to breed. "Stupid" people do not necessarily give birth to stupid children. I'd love to see the population "controlled" and the environment manged properly, but not really by any other means than through education and choice. The worst I'd go to, as mentioned earlier, would be after 2 kids, sterilise the male. You're concerned with the collapse of the ecosystem and scarcity? Oh the irony given that you believe that these things can be achieved using financial policy. HINT: it hasn't worked thus far, in fact the population has gone fuckin mental in the last 50 years in the name of growth.

I agree, we're not likely to get off this rock anytime soon and neither are we going to have that quality of life forever, it just ain't sustainable... even with robots etc... I reckon we'd have a better shot if we curbed economic growth and stopped producing the useless shit that we do, built business hubs that people could walk to, invested our resources in renewables and generally grew the fuck up. But no, much better to ignore all that and try to stop people from breeding . Hitler would be proud.

[bogan]

I think everyone should have the right to breed. "Stupid" people do not necessarily give birth to stupid children. I'd love to see the population "controlled" and the environment manged properly, but not really by any other means than through education and choice. The worst I'd go to, as mentioned earlier, would be after 2 kids, sterilise the male. You're concerned with the collapse of the ecosystem and scarcity? Oh the irony given that you believe that these things can be achieved using financial policy. HINT: it hasn't worked thus far, in fact the population has gone fuckin mental in the last 50 years in the name of growth.

I agree, we're not likely to get off this rock anytime soon and neither are we going to have that quality of life forever, it just ain't sustainable... even with robots etc... I reckon we'd have a better shot if we curbed economic growth and stopped producing the useless shit that we do, built business hubs that people could walk to, invested our resources in renewables and generally grew the fuck up. But no, much better to ignore all that and try to stop people from breeding . Hitler would be proud.

How do you reconcile those views, that everyone should have the right to breed, but that you'd love to see the population managed? Seems like it would be either or...

Doesn't matter how efficient you make the model of resource/production management, if your consumption is still going up (as it has to with population growth) then it is not a sustainable solution.

[Brian d marge]

The Japanese pay for you to have kids

and the population isn’t exactly racing ahead

Stephen

[mashman]

How do you reconcile those views, that everyone should have the right to breed, but that you'd love to see the population managed? Seems like it would be either or...

Doesn't matter how efficient you make the model of resource/production management, if your consumption is still going up (as it has to with population growth) then it is not a sustainable solution.

Why would it need to be one or the other? You offer the alternative... either fix yourself after 2 kids or we'll end up in a position where you get fixed. My view is fluid and where one solution isn't working, another will need to be tried (potentially slippery slope)... even Oceans contraceptive in the water as a last resort if need be.

Completely agree with you... apart from the, it has to with population growth bit. It only has to if they system under which you are living requires it to. A money free world would go a long way towards that, if not further than you imagine. No need for paper to be used i.e. no lawyers documents, bus tickets, advertising pamphlets etc... leaving more wood for building. Building business hubs near populated areas: less people driving to work i.e. less fuel usage/reliance on oil, healthier population so less drag on health service, less road maintenance. Hermetically sealing houses, using LED's etc... i.e. using less electricity to heat/light a house. Producing "goods" that last 50 years (or more) and not 10 i.e. producing less but shit lasts longer. Using renewable energy sources. The list is nearly endless and we could end up in a position where we've become resource efficient over so many years that the population has grown and we consume less in total than we do today. Ya never know, it may even see us into an age where we are able to get off this rock without resorting to culling as the population as the best solution, coz it isn't.