The experts speak yet again

**swbarnett** · 4th March 2014, 06:41

Originally Posted by trustme

The statistics, whether this is a blip or not,

You don't understand how statistics work, do you?

**swbarnett** · 4th March 2014, 06:46

Originally Posted by cassina

How lucky you get in a situation like that depends on how close you are to the driveway/footpath the dog runs out from. I have been knocked off by dogs twice and in both cases I was inline with the driveway/footpath the dog ran out from and had no time at all to even brake.

Try opening the throttle. I'm not saying it will always work but sometimes it's a much better option than the brake.

And I say this from personal experience.

**Tigadee** · 4th March 2014, 07:21

Originally Posted by swbarnett

Try opening the throttle. I'm not saying it will always work but sometimes it's a much better option than the brake.

And I say this from personal experience.

And how did it taste? Like chicken?

MD · 4th March 2014, 08:51

I'd say the reason that chart shows an increase in the over 40s Riders crashing is simply down to the lack of young people taking up riding. All that leaves is us older folk, so over time the stats wil have no choice but to reflect this demographic.

**Kendoll** · 4th March 2014, 08:53

Originally Posted by swbarnett

Try opening the throttle. I'm not saying it will always work but sometimes it's a much better option than the brake.

And I say this from personal experience.

Well said, agreed!

**Scubbo** · 4th March 2014, 09:21

Originally Posted by unstuck

Biggest load of shit I have read in ages. Ya fuckin muppet.

what I keep telling my old man to try get him back into riding, approaching 70, surely has one more adventure left in him

**James Deuce** · 4th March 2014, 09:30

Originally Posted by cassina

I don't think it has anything to do with the model of bike but rather the degree of throttle rotation. I had a test ride of the latest VF1200 Honda the most powerful bike I have ever ridden and had no problem managing its speed by just not rotating the throttle as much as my smaller bikes 850 and 650.

Get a train pass.

**James Deuce** · 4th March 2014, 09:31

Originally Posted by MD

I'd say the reason that chart shows an increase in the over 40s Riders crashing is simply down to the lack of young people taking up riding. All that leaves is us older folk, so over time the stats wil have no choice but to reflect this demographic.

It's a global trend, magnified by the current crop of entitled shits sponging off their parents into their early '30s.

**James Deuce** · 4th March 2014, 09:32

Originally Posted by cassina

How lucky you get in a situation like that depends on how close you are to the driveway/footpath the dog runs out from. I have been knocked off by dogs twice and in both cases I was inline with the driveway/footpath the dog ran out from and had no time at all to even brake.

Get a second train pass.

**5150** · 4th March 2014, 09:33

Brilliant piece in todays NZ HErald (Letters to the editor section)

This cock reckons that to reduce motorcyclists deaths we need to change laws to forbid them from lane splitting, trying to get to the front of the cue, passing on bends and drag knees around corners. He has either never ridden a bike or is a pissed off cager with an axe to grind.

**haydes55** · 4th March 2014, 10:38

Originally Posted by cassina

There was no time to open the throttle either.

I bet that as you hit the dog you had no throttle or brakes on. If you had of rolled on some more throttle as you hit, the bike would be more likely to stay upright.

At speedway I hit walls many times at full throttle on the straights, just bounce off and carry on. Seen so many people back off the throttle and the bike get ugly and crash.

**bogan** · 4th March 2014, 10:50

Originally Posted by cassina

No they don't need to do that just cancel ACC for those who do ride like that. There would be more riders in the cemetery who ride like that than who don't.

Yeh, anyone who falls off clearly shouldn't be covered by ACC, that'll lower the fuck out of our levies too

**Kendoll** · 4th March 2014, 10:57

Originally Posted by cassina

No they don't need to do that just cancel ACC for those who do ride like that. There would be more riders in the cemetery who ride like that than who don't.

Wow, what world do you live in? Will you then be the judge of who gets ACC and who doesn't according to their riding?

You'd better take in to account people hitting dogs who don't know whether to brake or throttle on, too...

**bogan** · 4th March 2014, 11:20

Originally Posted by cassina

What planet do you live on? as when hitting an animal on the road the fault always lies with the negligent
owner if they can be found. Even in the case of farm animals.

Does the same go for inanimate objects like wood? rocks? gravel etc?

Also, ACC is no fault, it is why we can't sue. You should probably do even just a cursory read of this stuff before flapping your gums.