How to grow the future of road racing in New Zealand

[Quasievil]

When you front up to race Crasher.

Sniping much.........you sad idiot

[Shaun Harris]

Please keep this on track team

[Shaun Harris]

Robert Taylor and Scott411 Realy looking forward to your guys opinions ideas on this one

[steveyb]

OK, so here is one opportunity to start the ball rolling with something constructive, but, it requires some work, of course.
While not a propos of a new series, new organisation or anything like that, it is a propos of a new way of marketing our game that has not to date really been tried.

So,
Sommet Sports have the rights to broadcast MotoGP in NZ for the next 3 years.

Sommet Sports are keen to broadcast local content as much as they can.

Sommet Sports however, are not yet content creators. They hope to be in the future, but are not yet there.

They are also often a bit light on content, and in particular content that is related to the main broadcast feature. E.g. The MotoGP might end up having Speedway or MotoX as the lead in because there is not much else.

But, if they can be supplied with broadcast quality content, they will look hard to schedule it in to match with a feature, e.g. MotoGP.

So, if the collective WE somehow are able to produce a series of 10-20 min items, then they will be able to show them.

In the first instance, a good idea is magazine type items identifying local racing identities, oddities, things/people of interest, like, oh I don't know, the IMD250 Pre-Moto3 bike as an example (hehehe).

Another really good example is a "fly on the wall" type doco following a team or rider for a "day at the races". Have some pre-written questions that the rider just answers during the bit with no input from an interviewer (it is about the rider and team, not the interviewer!) and capture the highs and lows of a race day.

These are REALLY successful vehicles and provide viewers with the human touch and can showcase sponsors too.

The challenge is in making these things broadcast quality and interesting. Everyone needs to make at least an attempt to be presentable and at least PG standards of language and behaviour, these sorts of things.

So, if there are any video makers out there, we are ready to have a go if you want to help get the ball rolling. Not for free either if you don't want to do it for free.
We might not even need to edit it up as my mate at Sommet, although very busy, is a professional editor, having also worked for the BBC at MotoGP for some time, and might be able to edit it up for us.

Contact me.

Cheers

Steve
Moto Academy NZ
Innovative Moto Developments IMD250

[Shaun Harris]

OK, so here is one opportunity to start the ball rolling with something constructive, but, it requires some work, of course.
While not a propos of a new series, new organisation or anything like that, it is a propos of a new way of marketing our game that has not to date really been tried.

So,
Sommet Sports have the rights to broadcast MotoGP in NZ for the next 3 years.

Sommet Sports are keen to broadcast local content as much as they can.

Sommet Sports however, are not yet content creators. They hope to be in the future, but are not yet there.

They are also often a bit light on content, and in particular content that is related to the main broadcast feature. E.g. The MotoGP might end up having Speedway or MotoX as the lead in because there is not much else.

But, if they can be supplied with broadcast quality content, they will look hard to schedule it in to match with a feature, e.g. MotoGP.

So, if the collective WE somehow are able to produce a series of 10-20 min items, then they will be able to show them.

In the first instance, a good idea is magazine type items identifying local racing identities, oddities, things/people of interest, like, oh I don't know, the IMD250 Pre-Moto3 bike as an example (hehehe).

Another really good example is a "fly on the wall" type doco following a team or rider for a "day at the races". Have some pre-written questions that the rider just answers during the bit with no input from an interviewer (it is about the rider and team, not the interviewer!) and capture the highs and lows of a race day.

These are REALLY successful vehicles and provide viewers with the human touch and can showcase sponsors too.

The challenge is in making these things broadcast quality and interesting. Everyone needs to make at least an attempt to be presentable and at least PG standards of language and behaviour, these sorts of things.

So, if there are any video makers out there, we are ready to have a go if you want to help get the ball rolling. Not for free either if you don't want to do it for free.
We might not even need to edit it up as my mate at Sommet, although very busy, is a professional editor, having also worked for the BBC at MotoGP for some time, and might be able to edit it up for us.

Contact me.

Cheers

Steve
Moto Academy NZ
Innovative Moto Developments IMD250

Great thinking Steve. I contacted a film crew yesterday with the idea of attending the Manfeild round of the nationals this year to do some filming to present to Sommet sports with basically what you said in mind. I will Contact you direct when I get an awnser from them. The response as of 30 miuntes ago is they are interested but but as per usual at this stage. They have asked me if I would be prepared to be the front person doing the interviews etc of the riders and spectators.

[Akzle]

*etcetera*
Steve
Moto Academy NZ
Innovative Moto Developments IMD250

good idea. So good i had it last week.
The imd is probably of interest to a very small audience. But could be Fucking ace for getting the next generation of engineers on side.
Also how well patronised is sommet? i know their my preference cos most tv is shit. Do they have on demand type service? i see that being a big thing going forward...
Also, people who want to make this work have to start doing it for free.

[scrivy]

But, if they can be supplied with broadcast quality content, they will look hard to schedule it in to match with a feature, e.g. MotoGP.

So, if the collective WE somehow are able to produce a series of 10-20 min items, then they will be able to show them.

These are REALLY successful vehicles and provide viewers with the human touch and can showcase sponsors too.

The challenge is in making these things broadcast quality and interesting. Everyone needs to make at least an attempt to be presentable and at least PG standards of language and behaviour, these sorts of things.

So, if there are any video makers out there, we are ready to have a go if you want to help get the ball rolling. Not for free either if you don't want to do it for free.
We might not even need to edit it up as my mate at Sommet, although very busy, is a professional editor, having also worked for the BBC at MotoGP for some time, and might be able to edit it up for us.

How many riders have goPros? Surely we could make a cloud account or sumpn and each rider/team could deposit footage in there from each round. Get an editor to edit it and hey presto, we've got more race footage for them to show......

Even stuff made like this highlights our sport.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLNj63Dtskk

[Akzle]

How many riders have goPros? Surely we could make a cloud account or sumpn and each rider/team could deposit footage in there from each round. Get an editor to edit it and hey presto, we've got more race footage for them to show......

Even stuff made like this highlights our sport.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLNj63Dtskk

fuck. Gopro and youtube must love all the free advertising they get.

[scott411]

not a bad Plan, but the problems i see,

1. getting 20-40 pepple to pay the money will be easy, to get 100 to pay i think will be very hard,

2. most of the races are run by volunteers, they tend not to like paid people telling them what to do,

Most racers do it for fun, not for the glory, not to make money, but basically they just like going fast on motorcycles, thats why track days are so popular,

We live in a different world to when you and I started racing, (i got my first NZACU liceinse in 1986) people work bigger hours, have less time off and are more selfish with the time they have to themselves, I am not sure this would change that,

[CHOPPA]

I dont see why everything needs to change, we have good class numbers, the standard of riders is very high considering we have no professional riders. Sponsors are out there if your willing to put in the effort.

Motorcycle racing is a sport. We do it for FUN. It is not a profession, trying to push to find the next Aaron Slight is a nice goal but your forcing a lot of pressure and debt onto young racers.

Racing a superbike is affordable. Just because the leading riders are spending $$$ it doesnt mean you have to. You wouldnt beat them anyway.

[Akzle]

Fuken. Ive read the blurb. Mnz has 6k members if their websites to be believed. Thats 4dollars someshit/member, to achieve the same salary for teh promoter.

Fuck i would win that shit if i was tptb.

Racing a superbike is affordable. Just because the leading riders are spending $$$ it doesnt mean you have to. You wouldnt beat them anyway.

there was this one guy, britten....

[CHOPPA]

Fuken. Ive read the blurb. Mnz has 6k members if their websites to be believed. Thats 4dollars someshit/member, to achieve the same salary for teh promoter.

Fuck i would win that shit if i was tptb.


there was this one guy, britten....

I was not around in that era but im pretty sure John Britten didnt race?

[jasonu]

I was not around in that era but im pretty sure John Britten didnt race?

I thought he raced classics at one point.

[gammaguy]

isle of new zealmand.
north and south editions.

Ill come up with a catchier name when the first bike gets here.

So what is your racing experience?any constructive ideas?

I'm pretty sure we would all like this to stay on topic


For what it's worth It would like to see a professionally promoted series


I was part of the phenominally successful sound of thunder series in the late 80s early 90s as a racer, official and organiser, the formula works.

[Akzle]

So what is your racing experience?any constructive ideas?

I'm pretty sure we would all like this to stay on topic


For what it's worth It would like to see a professionally promoted series


I was part of the phenominally successful sound of thunder series in the late 80s early 90s as a racer, official and organiser, the formula works.

i thought isle of nu zealman was a pretty good one.
Ive given my speil to thems what thinks about these things.
Pretty sure this has stayed on topic.
My racing experience is limited to being audience.