How to grow the future of road racing in New Zealand

[budda]

EJC500 used Andreani cartridges and Ohlins rear shocks, Jake Lewis will happily concur. The Andreani cartridges are VERY affordable and the prototype NITRON rear shock we have made mimics the character of the Ohlins shock but at around 60% of the price. Thats positive and proactive.
BTW such bikes as Ninja 250 / 300 also have aftermarket listings for cartridges and shocks. Manufacturers will only make such stuff if there is sizable worldwide demand, which there is. Not every country has its head in the sand.

AGREED Sad reality that demand and margin define availability, but the Tooth Fairy has been conspicuously absent lately - somebody somewhere has to pay to make the whole merry-go-round go round, as it were. There is indeed exactly nothing wrong with making a buck, without that there would be no crumbs for those of a mind to, to distribute to the needy / wanty in our frog pond

Even my mate Helen grasped that fundamental truth ..........

[Billy]

EJC500 used Andreani cartridges and Ohlins rear shocks, Jake Lewis will happily concur. The Andreani cartridges are VERY affordable and the prototype NITRON rear shock we have made mimics the character of the Ohlins shock but at around 60% of the price. Thats positive and proactive.
BTW such bikes as Ninja 250 / 300 also have aftermarket listings for cartridges and shocks. Manufacturers will only make such stuff if there is sizable worldwide demand, which there is. Not every country has its head in the sand.

All very good Robert,

But tell me,If or when whomever it may be that is involved in this project finally gets around to talking to the commissioner about getting it started as a class,Who will police this class in a fair and reasonable manner?????? Had I been able to stay on,I would have only considered it on the basis the distributor concerned dealt with the enforcement of any supp regs for such a class asWIL sport do with the Hyosung cup,Meantime another distributor has already approached the commissioner with a similar plan.

Also,Before this conversation carries on for too much longer,Be aware,As I'm sure Buddha will concur,Organising the Championship series is less than 10% of the commissioners role,Every permit application and supp regs has to be read and approved for EVERY race meeting in the country,In most cases this requires going back to the organiser as many as 3 or 4 times to get the stuff sorted in a reasonable manner,Then theres the 3 or 4 phonecalls per day from members requiring info or wishing to talk about proposed rules etcPlus 10 or more emails a week with members concerns or complaints,Following up on any serious injury accidents or fatalities including reviewing all the relevant info and compiling a statement for any coroners hearing or police reports,Then theres the various different classes within the discipline that have their own needs and wants,Such as miniature roadrace,Post classic,Sidercars,Supermoto and on it goes

[Robert Taylor]

AGREED Sad reality that demand and margin define availability, but the Tooth Fairy has been conspicuously absent lately - somebody somewhere has to pay to make the whole merry-go-round go round, as it were. There is indeed exactly nothing wrong with making a buck, without that there would be no crumbs for those of a mind to, to distribute to the needy / wanty in our frog pond

Even my mate Helen grasped that fundamental truth ..........

With all respect Budda I think growth needs to be found from ''OUTSIDE'' of our inwards looking prejudices and ''state of the sport'' judgements by attracting new riders to a new dynamic and proffessional class that mirrors a new reality in the market. We should be racing machines in such a class that are todays news, 250 ( 300? ) production satisfies that mentality in spades, a 500 class that then introduces the need to learn chassis and suspension setup skills is the next logical step

As a very clear headed chap just reinforced via PM, where is the career path? Setup and rider education in an inbetween class with representative chassis and suspension adjustments ( and response to same ) is the key 'crowning glory'' of the concept that is being put forward

I think its a nasty thing to lower the quality of constructive dialogue by mentioning that bitches name........

[budda]

With all respect Budda I think growth needs to be found from ''OUTSIDE'' of our inwards looking prejudices and ''state of the sport'' judgements by attracting new riders to a new dynamic and proffessional class that mirrors a new reality in the market. We should be racing machines in such a class that are todays news, 250 ( 300? ) production satisfies that mentality in spades, a 500 class that then introduces the need to learn chassis and suspension setup skills is the next logical step

As a very clear headed chap just reinforced via PM, where is the career path? Setup and rider education in an inbetween class with representative chassis and suspension adjustments ( and response to same ) is the key 'crowning glory'' of the concept that is being put forward

I think its a nasty thing to lower the quality of constructive dialogue by mentioning that bitches name........

New REALITY - you been supping merlot and swotting up on Mr Persigs finest tomes then ?

[Robert Taylor]

All very good Robert,

But tell me,If or when whomever it may be that is involved in this project finally gets around to talking to the commissioner about getting it started as a class,Who will police this class in a fair and reasonable manner?????? Had I been able to stay on,I would have only considered it on the basis the distributor concerned dealt with the enforcement of any supp regs for such a class asWIL sport do with the Hyosung cup,Meantime another distributor has already approached the commissioner with a similar plan.

Also,Before this conversation carries on for too much longer,Be aware,As I'm sure Buddha will concur,Organising the Championship series is less than 10% of the commissioners role,Every permit application and supp regs has to be read and approved for EVERY race meeting in the country,In most cases this requires going back to the organiser as many as 3 or 4 times to get the stuff sorted in a reasonable manner,Then theres the 3 or 4 phonecalls per day from members requiring info or wishing to talk about proposed rules etcPlus 10 or more emails a week with members concerns or complaints,Following up on any serious injury accidents or fatalities including reviewing all the relevant info and compiling a statement for any coroners hearing or police reports,Then theres the various different classes within the discipline that have their own needs and wants,Such as miniature roadrace,Post classic,Sidercars,Supermoto and on it goes

In short this is all currently under consideration at the relevant distributor. The seed is sown and the basic concept of the bike has been tested on track. Its now up to the said distributor to pick up the ball and run with it.

[scott411]

As a very clear headed chap just reinforced via PM, where is the career path? Setup and rider education in an inbetween class with representative chassis and suspension adjustments ( and response to same ) is the key 'crowning glory'' of the concept that is being put forward

this is a sport, not a career, it will cost 99.9% of everyone involved money, and a lot of it,

[budda]

this is a sport, not a career, it will cost 99.9% of everyone involved money, and a lot of it,

I KNEW I liked you, LittleGreenGuy

[budda]

All very good Robert,

But tell me,If or when whomever it may be that is involved in this project finally gets around to talking to the commissioner about getting it started as a class,Who will police this class in a fair and reasonable manner?????? Had I been able to stay on,I would have only considered it on the basis the distributor concerned dealt with the enforcement of any supp regs for such a class asWIL sport do with the Hyosung cup,Meantime another distributor has already approached the commissioner with a similar plan.

Also,Before this conversation carries on for too much longer,Be aware,As I'm sure Buddha will concur,Organising the Championship series is less than 10% of the commissioners role,Every permit application and supp regs has to be read and approved for EVERY race meeting in the country,In most cases this requires going back to the organiser as many as 3 or 4 times to get the stuff sorted in a reasonable manner,Then theres the 3 or 4 phonecalls per day from members requiring info or wishing to talk about proposed rules etcPlus 10 or more emails a week with members concerns or complaints,Following up on any serious injury accidents or fatalities including reviewing all the relevant info and compiling a statement for any coroners hearing or police reports,Then theres the various different classes within the discipline that have their own needs and wants,Such as miniature roadrace,Post classic,Sidercars,Supermoto and on it goes

10-12 emails a WEEK ???????? HELLS BELLS, I sure did have it wrong. Sure you mean per DAY

[Billy]

10-12 emails a WEEK ???????? HELLS BELLS, I sure did have it wrong. Sure you mean per DAY

Yea,I did,Just letting it out a bit at a time haha,Don't want to scare ony "Prospectives" off

[scrivy]

Yea,I did,Just letting it out a bit at a time haha,Don't want to scare ony "Prospectives" off

It's like I said, it should be a paid job...... No carnt will won't to do it otherwise

Talk about it at conference FFS............

Otherwise I'll just have to stick to surfing porn and spanking my monkey...