Election date: 20 September

**SPman** · 12th March 2014, 10:11

Originally Posted by caseye

I don't love John Key or many of the Nat MP's but they are actually pulling our collective arses out of the fire and giving us a decent go at getting into the black for the first time since the last time they were in Power.

If you believe that, you obviously haven't been paying any attention the last few years and take TV1 news and the Harold as gospel fact!

Go back and study NZ politics for the last 70 yrs - this "do nothing" government is one of the worst to have ever had the misfortune to rule NZ - and that's saying something, because there have been some beauts over the years!

A policy of selling milk powder to China is not going to save the country long, medium or short term, unless you're living in cloud cuckoo land - oh yes, of course, you support this government - you are living in la la land!

**Ocean1** · 12th March 2014, 12:12

Originally Posted by SPman

- oh yes, of course, you support this government - you are living in la la land!

And considering it's the most popular government we've had for decades it's obvious that a comfortable majority are in there with him.

Or...

Do you suppose it's worth a quick peek out of the window to check which side of the Lala/NZ border you're on?

**Oakie** · 12th March 2014, 15:47

Originally Posted by Ocean1

And considering it's the most popular government we've had for decades it's obvious that a comfortable majority are in there with him.

Or...

Do you suppose it's worth a quick peek out of the window to check which side of the Lala/NZ border you're on?

According to his stated location he's in W.A. which I'm not picking as West Auckland... more likely the west coast of the West Island.

**SPman** · 13th March 2014, 10:17

Originally Posted by Ocean1

And considering it's the most popular government we've had for decades it's obvious that a comfortable majority are in there with him.

Yes, although that's not surprising. Amongst my friends, aquaintances and relations, only my two brothers support the current Government - but then, they have the IQ of a shoaling Mackerel and tend to believe anything that they hear from a perceived authority - after all, the government never lies and the papers print the truth so all is well in the state of Denmark!

Yes, I currently reside in W.A., but I also frequent NZ enough to be eligible to vote.

**Ocean1** · 13th March 2014, 20:00

Originally Posted by SPman

Yes, although that's not surprising. Amongst my friends, aquaintances and relations, only my two brothers support the current Government - but then, they have the IQ of a shoaling Mackerel and tend to believe anything that they hear from a perceived authority - after all, the government never lies and the papers print the truth so all is well in the state of Denmark!

Yes, I currently reside in W.A., but I also frequent NZ enough to be eligible to vote.

Face it, dude, a horrible experimental lurch to the left driven by the kind of selfish arseholes who's vote is for sale to the highest bidder has finally and literally run out of gas. For now, the majority recognises that all Labour's got is different ways to spend other people's money, and they're sick of it.

You don't agree. And yet the majority is so large and has been for so long and shows so little sign of failing that all you've got is the evel right wing media has befuddled their simple heads. And that, sir, makes you not only wrong but arrogant and wilfully self deluded.

**Scuba_Steve** · 13th March 2014, 20:09

Originally Posted by Ocean1

Face it, dude, a horrible experimental lurch to the left driven by the kind of selfish arseholes who's vote is for sale to the highest bidder has finally and literally run out of gas. For now, the majority recognises that all Labour's got is different ways to spend other people's money, and they're sick of it.

So all we've done is, a horrible experimental lurch to the right driven by the kind of selfish arseholes who's vote is for sale to the highest bidder is slowly and literally running out of gas. For now, the majority recognises that all National's got is different ways to spend other people's money, and they're getting sick of it.

hmm, Same shit different colour, who would have thought ay!

**Ocean1** · 13th March 2014, 20:29

Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve

So all we've done is, a horrible experimental lurch to the right driven by the kind of selfish arseholes who's vote is for sale to the highest bidder is slowly and literally running out of gas. For now, the majority recognises that all National's got is different ways to spend other people's money, and they're getting sick of it.

hmm, Same shit different colour, who would have thought ay!

Small differences matter. National are slightly more likely to spend other people's money where it's slightly more likely to produce value. Whereas the left don't really worry about how money is made, and they're slightly more likely to spend it at a total loss.

Now, if there was an option that suggested an alternative to taking a majority of income from your average kiwi and then having to give some of it back so they can afford to live I'd be all ears.

**Scuba_Steve** · 13th March 2014, 20:46

Originally Posted by Ocean1

Small differences matter. National are slightly more likely to spend other people's money where it's slightly more likely to produce value. Whereas the left don't really worry about how money is made, and they're slightly more likely to spend it at a total loss.

Now, if there was an option that suggested an alternative to taking a majority of income from your average kiwi and then having to give some of it back so they can afford to live I'd be all ears.

To be honest, think I'd rather have the "total loss" then "produce value" given that "value" is for China & the US.
But ideally I'd have neither the Bloodz nor the Crips running this country

**Ocean1** · 13th March 2014, 20:56

Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve

To be honest, think I'd rather have the "total loss" then "produce value" given that "value" is for China & the US.
But ideally I'd have neither the Bloodz nor the Crips running this country

Balance of trade with the US is roughly neutral. As with China.

I have no idea what the reference to old US gangs might be related to.

**Scuba_Steve** · 13th March 2014, 21:21

Originally Posted by Ocean1

Balance of trade with the US is roughly neutral. As with China.

I have no idea what the reference to old US gangs might be related to.

I'll explain with pictures

**oldrider** · 13th March 2014, 22:42

Yeah National and Labour are about as different as Hitler and Stalin only the latter pair weren't so sneaky!

**u4ea** · 14th March 2014, 01:23

Originally Posted by The Reibz

NZ First.
Contrary to popular belief, New Zealand actually has more than 2 political parties you can vote for.
Would never vote greens because im pro oil and gas. Quite a few of the boys are cracking $3000 a week pay checks as engineers on rigs, whats not to like about that? Could buy a new bike every month on those wages.

Absolutly! I love oil and gas

..It gets me to work in shitty weather, it gets food in the supermarket, it puts pakaging on our food, ........... oo ..........and It makes my bike go

...go figure..the Greens would double the price of everything to save the planet..carbon tax.........fark.........wow NZ Greens carve such a massive hole in the worlds environment!!!!!!NOT

**Akzle** · 16th March 2014, 06:37

Originally Posted by Ocean1

Now, if there was an option that suggested an alternative to taking a majority of income from your average kiwi and then having to give some of it back so they can afford to live I'd be all ears.

just ask mashy