Curmudgeon
Silent T hid donations, and only refunded them after he was caught.Originally Posted by Banditbandit
Key did something that is very common in politics on both sides - the source of the money was a public fund raiser, anyone could go.
The subsequent donation was made public and its source (the event organiser) identified.
As for legislation - I think you told me to google things for myself...
Anarchic Wild Child
Where they "hidden" or did he simply not tell people they were made - and when was there a requirement for donations to a person be made public?
It does not make it ethical - and hypocrisy is about ethics, not law - but many right wing people fail to miss the distinction.Key did something that is very common in politics on both sides - the source of the money was a public fund raiser, anyone could go.
The subsequent donation was made public and its source (the event organiser) identified.
I did Oscar, I did. That's the problem. I could not find anything that says donations to a private individual to help pay for a campaign to become a political leader are illegal.As for legislation - I think you told me to google things for myself...
So I'm asking nicely - you're the one who claimed it was illegal - please show me how - I thought you might have been right - and it gave me a bit of a sleepless night because I could not find anything that says it was illegal ... and while we disagree on opinions and things, usually we agree on the facts ...
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Wearing Hi-Viz Black.
It appears as if another of labour's "leaders in waiting" has some hidden trusts that need to be declared.
TOP QUOTE: “The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”
"channellling the Pleideans"
Spill for those of us who try not to follow local politics?
I thought elections were decided by angry posts on social media. - F5 Dave
Anarchic Wild Child
Huh ??? Labour has another "leader in waiting" ??? .. It might be useful if you tell the party that - they need them now !!!
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Forum whore
Whereas National just has it's normal list of corrupt ministers....this week....Judith Collins (again), Amy Adams and Nathan Guy selling citizenship for a large donation to the National party. But, they're national MP's so it's quite alright and the Nats are good at "When shit happens, the right try to diffuse by smearing all politicians."
And the books are worse than forecast by the Nats by $670,000,000, so, quick - trot out the "change the flag" crap to divert attention - bread and circusses for the masses.
Fuck you guys are stupid!
“- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”
Aio ki te Aorangi
Aren't the nats getting a shitload of new blood after the next erection? That'll mean less corruption, right?
I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!
Anarchic Wild Child
"You must spread ..."
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Curmudgeon
It's a good thing that there are clever guys like you around to guide us peasants...
Forum whore
Clever - Hah. If I was so clever, why am I still working!
Lets face it - most people, unless it directly affects them, keep well away from politics and what is going on in the country - they are content to get what info they do get, from the MSM, and if you have the MSM on your side, you can tell the bulk of the populace what you want them to hear and a large proportion will believe it....because it's the voice of perceived authority. The MSM in NZ is well and truly sided with the current government, apart from the odd "mistake" or attempted breakout by the occasional reporter, so pretty much whatever they want to put across, gets put across.
As long as it isn't costing them money or stuff, most people are then quite content to go along to get along, for better or for worse. They seem to believe all sorts of crap, because they don't know any better - and they don't know any better because they aren't being informed properly, which a decent media would see as a prerequisite of it's existence - not a mass entertainment, shock horror expose bullshit system designed to sell advertising!
Corruption, self interest, deceit and "Fuck you'dness" has always been there, but, in NZ politics has generally been at a low level (No, Helen Clark was not corrupt, just stupid at times), but the current government, with Teflon John at the helm seems to have elevated it to their main reason for being. This current government doesn't give a shit about the population - the common good. It doesn't give a shit about small business - who all seem to beleive that the right will always be their saviour when, if you look at history, they get shafted under a right leaning gov. the same as all the rest. All the right concern themselves with, is a small "elite", which they seem to consider they are, which includes big business - and their swarms of small time wannabees who cling to their coat tails in the hope some of the "eliteness" will rub of on them.........but they are deluding themselves.
You use peasant as a derogatory term.......like a superior talking down to an inferior......guess that says a lot about your attitude to others.......
“- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”
Forum whore
Fuck you talk endless shit.
Donghua Liu was granted permanent residence in 2005 by Damian O'Connor who overruled his officials in doing so. Ministers have that discretion and use it in about 6% of cases.
Taito Phillip Field used it quite extensively.
Maybe you're thinking of that other Liu. Bill was it? Great mate of Dover Samuels. Wanted by Interpol, multiple identities, gave big donation to Labour prior to citizenship being granted, granted his citizenship in a special ceremony in the Labour Party caucus room!
Is that the Liu you're thinking of?
Here's an article by Chris Trotter. Don't have much time for the fuckwit but at least he's always had the balls to call himself a socialist and not whatever politically correct, cringing, phrase du jour might be fashionable amongst the latte sippers.
We're FUCKED! Every man for himself!
Wearing Hi-Viz Black.
Because you voted labour.
TOP QUOTE: “The problem with socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other people’s money.”
"channellling the Pleideans"
the issue is that unless you use the MSM you end up listening either to the voices in your head or to the lunatics that Akzle and SMOKEU listen to.
Its the death of western civilisation, man.
I thought elections were decided by angry posts on social media. - F5 Dave
"channellling the Pleideans"
I'm still working too, and I sure as shit didn't vote for them.Because you voted labour.
Or Nazional.
I thought elections were decided by angry posts on social media. - F5 Dave
"channellling the Pleideans"
One finds it difficult to understand how using an example of New Zealands only actually corrupt pollie bosters your case. Kindly elucidate for the peasants.
I thought elections were decided by angry posts on social media. - F5 Dave
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