Collapse of civilisation (one for Akzle)

[mashman]

Excellent, I'd trust them a hell of a lot more than the muppets who think the way to progress is civil war

They're not going to be in charge. Humans will program them. I can see it now as the robot walks up and starts blowing people away after it scans the facial recognition database and validates that person's bank balance against the threshold is has been programmed with. Tis what I'd do if I was on "their" side of the fence.

[Edbear]

Some people watch too much TV...

The epitome of human - like robotics is Honda's Assimo. A very long way from any practical function.

Nope, it's real human beings who decide our fate as far as this world goes and TPTB readily accept what needs to be done, but the stumbling block is unity. It ain't gonna happen. The very sincere and strenuous efforts of groups to try and make the changes necessary are too limited when placed against the scale of the issue.

Environmental science says it requires urgent, global and drastic action that needed to start yesterday. But as I asked, which nation's government is going to slash their use of resources by 1/3 over the next 10 years, let alone all first world nations?

[avgas]

Nope, it's real human beings who decide our fate as far as this world goes and TPTB readily accept what needs to be done, but the stumbling block is unity. It ain't gonna happen. The very sincere and strenuous efforts of groups to try and make the changes necessary are too limited when placed against the scale of the issue.

Not entirely true anymore. Lots is now automated. Sometimes not in the most intelligent way. Would you like to know more?

[awa355]

keep tellin ya man. We gotta send the fuckers to the sun.

Would a rocket going to the sun need solar panels???

[unstuck]

[avgas]

Would a rocket going to the sun need solar panels???

How else are you going to run the air-conditioning?

[mashman]

Some people watch too much TV...

The epitome of human - like robotics is Honda's Assimo. A very long way from any practical function.

Nope, it's real human beings who decide our fate as far as this world goes and TPTB readily accept what needs to be done, but the stumbling block is unity. It ain't gonna happen. The very sincere and strenuous efforts of groups to try and make the changes necessary are too limited when placed against the scale of the issue.

Environmental science says it requires urgent, global and drastic action that needed to start yesterday. But as I asked, which nation's government is going to slash their use of resources by 1/3 over the next 10 years, let alone all first world nations?

Human beings only make decisions. Robots carry out orders without question. They don't have to be the things you see in the movies, they merely have to be able to point and shoot. Sounds like you've been watching too much TV if you think that a soldier robot needs to have arms and legs

[unstuck]

Human beings only make decisions. Robots carry out orders without question. They don't have to be the things you see in the movies, they merely have to be able to point and shoot. Sounds like you've been watching too much TV if you think that a soldier robot needs to have arms and legs

He still believes in fairy stories though, so ya gotta excpect that shit.

[mashman]

He still believes in fairy stories though, so ya gotta excpect that shit.

And you don't?

[blue rider]

interview with Bill Gates

http://bgr.com/2014/03/14/bill-gates-interview-robots/

“Software substitution, whether it’s for drivers or waiters or nurses… it’s progressing,” Gates said. “Technology over time will reduce demand for jobs, particularly at the lower end of skill set… 20 years from now, labor demand for lots of skill sets will be substantially lower. I don’t think people have that in their mental model.”

As for what governments should do to prevent social unrest in the wake of mass unemployment, the Microsoft cofounder said that they should basically get on their knees and beg businesses to keep employing humans over algorithms. This means perhaps eliminating payroll and corporate income taxes while also not raising the minimum wage so that businesses will feel comfortable employing people at dirt-cheap wages instead of outsourcing their jobs to an iPad.

[rustyrobot]

Some people watch too much TV...

The epitome of human - like robotics is Honda's Assimo. A very long way from any practical function.

If only that were true Ed. Assimo is not even the most advanced of humanoids these days.

Semi-autonomous military robots already exist, and it is not going to be long until they have an increase in autonomy to the point of full self-control. They will not look like humans though - they will look like cars and trucks and airplanes.

South Korea already has autonomous machine gun units:
South Korean military hardware manufacturer DoDAMM used the Korea Robot World 2010 expo to display its new Super aEgis 2, an automated gun turret that can detect and lock onto human targets from kilometers away, day or night and in any weather conditions, and deliver some heavy firepower.

[unstuck]

And you don't?

Nope, not since I saw santa getting arrested for being drunk and disorderly.

[ellipsis]

Would a rocket going to the sun need solar panels???

...they would be sent at night time, silly...

[mashman]

interview with Bill Gates

http://bgr.com/2014/03/14/bill-gates-interview-robots/

They already are on their knees, but they're taking it up the arse coz they have no choice. Billy boy gates speaks of models yet misses the most obvious flaw in the O/S of society. Sort that and you can have as many robots as you like as joblessness won't be an issue. Til then, he's just another dickhead with no clue/

[Edbear]

If only that were true Ed. Assimo is not even the most advanced of humanoids these days.

Semi-autonomous military robots already exist, and it is not going to be long until they have an increase in autonomy to the point of full self-control. They will not look like humans though - they will look like cars and trucks and airplanes.

South Korea already has autonomous machine gun units:
South Korean military hardware manufacturer DoDAMM used the Korea Robot World 2010 expo to display its new Super aEgis 2, an automated gun turret that can detect and lock onto human targets from kilometers away, day or night and in any weather conditions, and deliver some heavy firepower.
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I do understand what everyone is talking about, but I was thinking of the "I Robot" scenario, which just isn't going to happen.

Regardless of everything else, the fact remains that unless "we" reduce by 1/3 our demand on the earth's resources every decade, Mankind is practically stuffed. On top of that we have the death of the bees and oceans to face along with runaway CO2 pollution from the melting of the permafrost greatly speeding up the global warming situation. That bit has been likened to a snowball effect.

Now while there are solutions that we all know about, the reality is that nothing is going to be done about it on a global scale by the nations with the means to do so. The status quo will remain - the increasing demand on resources, the increasing rate of pollution of the oceans the aquifers and the air, and the increasing civil instability within nations.