Deaths

[FJRider]

Before you start quoting meaningless stats. Tell us how many kms were actually ridden in the same period, and where.

15/9 = 1.66^'. If there were 2/3 more kms ridden than last year then this figure is expected.

It matters little how many km's were ridden per average of each rider. My intention is to survive each and every Kilometer I ride.

And still arrive at my destination ... not my destiny ...

What's YOUR intention .. ??

[swbarnett]

It matters little how many km's were ridden per average of each rider. My intention is to survive each and every Kilometer I ride.

And still arrive at my destination ... not my destiny ...

What's YOUR intention .. ??

Exactly the same.

But this thread isn't about the individual rider. It's about the fact that more riders have died on the roads so far this year as compared to last year. There is no doubt that this is true. What I'm saying is that this may have little relevance to how we're riding as a group. It might have relevance, we can't know without the context in which the sample was taken.

[FJRider]

Exactly the same.

But this thread isn't about the individual rider. It's about the fact that more riders have died on the roads so far this year as compared to last year. There is no doubt that this is true. What I'm saying is that this may have little relevance to how we're riding as a group. It might have relevance, we can't know without the context in which the sample was taken.

When statistics reveal how many SUV drivers are involved in the death toll .. and truck drivers ... and Honda civic drivers ... And until each and every make and model/type of vehicle are listed ... NO such accurate records you mention will be of use. To anybody.

As for motorcycles .. a Harley rider one week (or two) ... suzuki rider the next ... maybe ...

As for the honda riders ...


The REAL statistic we need is who is/was at fault ... and why. Because the "No fault" policy of ACC wont list it. But Motorcyclists (as a group) are involved more on average ... in National road deaths. Therefore we pay more ... as a group.

Issues can't be addressed if we don't know the cause.

[awa355]

Yesterday I rode through to the Beach Hop at Whangamata. Unfortunately, the 3 dumbest bits of driving/riding came from three examples of motorcycle riding. Passing on blind bends and over the brow of a hill, completely over the centre line. Seems that some think that with speed and horsepower they have no need to wait.

[Oakie]

I honestly don't care what the stats say as long as they reflect the true situation, tell the whole story and aren't doctored by anyone with an agenda - them or us.

"Statistics will own up to anything if tortured enough."

[pritch]

Passing on blind bends and over the brow of a hill, completely over the centre line. Seems some think that with speed and horsepower they have no need to wait.

Was that a group ride? The most utterly brain dead riding I have witnessed has happened on big group rides, and is the reason I avoid them now.

About the OP's questions; today is March 30, the answer to that statistics question will not be available until after 31 December. Let's all just try to be still here then.

[Murray]

When statistics reveal how many SUV drivers are involved in the death toll .. and truck drivers ...

Seems to be a truck crashing almost everyday????

[FJRider]

Seems to be a truck crashing almost everyday????

I wonder if their ACC levies will go up .. ??

[Crasherfromwayback]

Are you really sure you'd like to see that information?

I'd hazard a guess that it wouldn't make us look good.

Aye. I've seen an incredible amount of shit riding in my time.

[James Deuce]

Statistical variance. Another part of the year that had 15 last year will get 8 this year.

[MD]

Bloody depressing. I go for a Sunday ride to the usual haunts. Stop for a pleasant coffee break at Medici, Sun's shining, sipping a nice brew and open the Sunday Times. Ah the joy of motorcycling. DOH, first bloody thing I see is TWO motorcyclists died yesterday (29/03/14) in separate accidents. What the hells happening?

Strange thing I saw another Sunday paper today at the gas station, with front page lead story about the businessman who died yesterday in a Ducati crash. Without wanting to be flippant about this sad loss, why was the brand of vehicle so prominent in the headline? Will we now get news reports like; a Holden crash, Toyota crash, Kenworth crash.

Condolences to those that knew these riders.

[trustme]

Lets blame global warming . Far too much good weather encouraging riders to get out there.

Roll on winter

[Hitcher]

Condolences to all whom know the riders.

There's an unwritten law on Kiwi Biker: Thou shalt not endeavour to boost one's post count by posting ghoulish "look at moi" biker down threads.

Even worse when these are added to the GBR forum. That's why this has been moved to R&R, with all others of its ilk.

[ricardohardo]

There's an unwritten law on Kiwi Biker: Thou shalt not endeavour to boost one's post count by posting ghoulish "look at moi" biker down threads.

Even worse when these are added to the GBR forum. That's why this has been moved to R&R, with all others of its ilk.

Don't be a twat....its a genuine issue, putting it out there for discussion is better than being ignorant to the facts ?


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[swbarnett]

but it should only be for the crazys

Yet another person who doesn't understand the purpose or principle of ACC.