Back tyre briefly lost grip on straight road

[scumdog]

What condition is your rear tyre in? No trying to squeeze the last few hundred kms out of it are you?

X2

I've been to crashes where a 'nearly worn out back tyre' on a wet road was the culprit.

[george formby]

If your tires are good then it was most likely spooge of some sort, tar bleed, diesel, oil from an old ute, cow shit etc. Had a few wee slippys on the road.

In Belgium they have repaired huge swathes of motorway with pure tar, like our tar bleed or over banding where cracks in the road are sealed with tar. Bizarre feeling watching the revs go up & the speedo go down in heavy traffic. A quick life saver made the bike fish tail.

If it was a one off & the bike is good, bearings (wheel, swing arm, shock etc), tires are good, head bearings are good etc then I would not sweat it.
Loss of traction. It happens.

[TLJimmy]

I had a similar experience on a corner last week, except I slid sideways a half lane width. Thank fuck for modern tires - the old skinny tires on the GSX1100E I had as a teenager woulda had me on my arse - reparing the ignition cover...again I went back to see what had caused it - and found a patch of tar bleed that was almost invisible with the light in the direction I was traveling. Going the other way it stuck out like dogs balls.....Buggers can sneak up and bite you, even if you are looking out for them...it's all part of riding on our shite roads in the rain.

[Akzle]

1st of all, your ride a motorcycle, if your description of how you control it is driving then you need to learn a lot. did you think about going and have a look to see what it was, and then checking to see whether there were any warning signs you may not have picked up that may help you in the future? if it's deisle then the road often has a rainbow effect and you can smell it...

no more beersies for you bro.

[R650R]

Just part of riding, you did ok to ride it out and obviously didn't do anything stupid like shut the throttle or brake.
Our roads are crap and then lots of crap gets dropped/spilled on them all the time.
Even in loaded 44+Ton b-train wheelspin in straight line on flat or tractor unit sledging in corners happens more than you'd expect.

You should make sure your seat cover is clean afterwards so you don't slide up on the tank next time you brake ;p

[Flip]

Involved in an (3 bike group) accident a few years ago when the front and back bike went down on a relatively straight road. The road was a bleedy POS but also the seal was broken up like crazy paving and covering a soft patch of mud. It was just that the water had hydrauliced the fines out of the hard fill.

The front bike went down and the back bike went down and mine went well well basically balistic but I did get the scoot between the front rider and the front bike without hitting either as they were sliding down the road. Then spent 8 hours in the rain on the side of the road looking after two HD's waiting for a tow truck after the riders were taken to hospital.

A bit of trail bike riding really pays dividents when these low traction "brown moments" happen. Even for fuckers on Harleys. The only thing that saved me was I didnt touch the brakes when I felt the the bike slipping side ways.

It was just before the Hamner turn off.

[Big Dog]

First half hour of rain shine is the worst. It brings out all the shit that was baked in. On good seal this runs off. On tar bleed it just hangs around like snot. Middle o winter is good because cars and trucks have broken the snot down and all the passing aqua treads have dispersed it, hopefully on to good seal.

There is a hill on the way home that almost anytime it has started raining the back wheel spins up on anything. 350, 1300. Etc. Even done it once in the bighorn. Now I know it is there it is sometimes more frightening. Anticipation. Etc.


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[SMOKEU]

Even in loaded 44+Ton b-train wheelspin in straight line on flat or tractor unit sledging in corners happens more than you'd expect.

I didn't think it would really be possible to skid up a big truck like that. Do a proper skid!

[pritch]

If i had to guess it would be tar bleed. Ive had the same effect while riding in the wet due to tar bleed.

Yeah my guess too. Those tar patches can be exciting on a corner, hopefully the sliding is over before I start to "correct" and really fuck things up.

On one memorable trip in seriously wet weather on a near new VFR both wheels were sliding on the tar patches - on the straights. When I got home I gave the OE Bridgestones the heave and fitted Metzeler Z6s. Problem solved.

Happened to me in a bend on a Goldwing once. It was only a little slide but even a little slide is impressive on a Goldwing.

[Brett]

Yep. Sounds like tar bleed to me. It's a bitch in the wet. Very slippery.

[quickbuck]

I remember once when I pulled out into a passing lane to overtake a car in the wet. I was on my 98 GSX 600 Teapot. Opened the throttle a little and revs increased, speed reduced... Lost so much ground doing the rolling burnout I nearly run out of passing lane by the time I found traction again.
I would say it was tar bleed in my case too.....

As stated, keep the Gyro spinning. Don't touch anything. Most important, keep your head and eyes up.

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[400sm]

Yep, tar bleed for sure. I thort my clutch had gone!
The goverment should be held accountable for this type of road maintenance negligence, which creates this dangerous environment.

[Big Dog]

Yep, tar bleed for sure. I thort my clutch had gone!
The goverment should be held accountable for this type of road maintenance negligence, which creates this dangerous environment.

The govt don't pave our roads.
They supplement the local council and other agencies who manage it.
Those agencies and local bodies subcontract the work to the best tender. Often they will subcontract as well. Result is one of the roads between home an the motorway was skimmed and reseated last year. And again this year. It was fine a few months ago barring a little over banding. Now it is a rutted mess with lots o chunks missing. And the over banding is still there. And we now have tar bleeding where there was none before.

Worse? There is about 100m away a 100m section where both tyre tracks are pure tar bleed.


I miss the Ministry of Works. They might have had a few employees whose main job was to prop up a shovel, on a really busy day count clouds as they lay hidden in the long grass but the road when they were finished was fit for use.

Being fair to current roadies:
I could not do a better job.
Something like 40% more of our roads are paved.
The govt contribution is significantly lower per km travelled.
There are more barriers.
There was only a fraction of the road users in particular, trucks. Largely because govt protections on rail came off at the same time.


Mayhaps I wear the rose tinted glasses as I gaze upon the yesteryear of my youth?


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[avgas]

First time its happened to me from over the 3+ years of riding

Now don't take this the wrong way - but it sounds to me like your 3 years of experience have not really been in figuring out how to ride your bike.
Knowing its limits, knowing what causes what, seeing how it acts and reacts.

This is all being part of a rider. You are there for the ride, so you really need to know what your bike is likely to do in situations. Don't be scared to find out what its limits are (which ironically have little to do with speed), in a safe environment.

As someone eloquently put it too me in the past...
"30 seconds in a skid pan overwrites 20 years worth on a highway".

We are all learning - regardless of how long we have been riding.

[skippa1]

Mayhaps I wear the rose tinted glasses as I gaze upon the yesteryear of my youth?


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

You're spot on.........