My experience with Colemans Suzuki K Road

**MarkH** · 3rd May 2014, 16:22

Originally Posted by jellywrestler

does that include postage and credit card/paypal fees, what's it really cost in your hand?

It would cost about half the price and is a better filter.
credit card/paypal fees are only a small percentage if anything, in this case I think the seller charges nothing extra and takes the hit.
Postage adds a bit, but I consolidate a decent (over US$200) order that includes a couple of oil filters so that the shipping cost that I could attribute to the filters would only be a couple of bucks each.

Currently the exchange rate is so good that US$6.09 is equal to only just over NZ$7 so I think that I'd have these oil filters in my hand for less than NZ$12 total cost which is under half what a worse filter bought here would cost.

**Gremlin** · 3rd May 2014, 16:30

Originally Posted by AllanB

It's not the same oil. The stuff in the workshop comes in a huge drum and they have to get a forklift to take it to the workshop. This is more expensive that some dolly carrying a four litre pack to a shelf.

Yeah, but you actually get 4L too, whereas most bikes top out at 3.6L.

Still, I remember when the KTM took fully synthetic, that was $40/L. Instead of buying the 1L bottles on the shelf for top ups, I got the shop to re-fill a bottle from their supply, cost a bit less (unlike OP obviously)

With the BMW taking mineral, I wait for Repco or Supercheap to have a special, then pay around $40 for 4L.

**jellywrestler** · 3rd May 2014, 16:36

Originally Posted by MarkH

It would cost about half the price and is a better filter.
credit card/paypal fees are only a small percentage if anything, in this case I think the seller charges nothing extra and takes the hit.
Postage adds a bit, but I consolidate a decent (over US$200) order that includes a couple of oil filters so that the shipping cost that I could attribute to the filters would only be a couple of bucks each.

Currently the exchange rate is so good that US$6.09 is equal to only just over NZ$7 so I think that I'd have these oil filters in my hand for less than NZ$12 total cost which is under half what a worse filter bought here would cost.

so not the USD$6.09 you mentioned though...

**MarkH** · 3rd May 2014, 17:27

Originally Posted by jellywrestler

so not the USD$6.09 you mentioned though...

Silly me, assuming that you could guestimate what sort of landed price that would work out to.
My point is that I can buy a better product for less than half the price, so that is what I do.
I figure it is better than paying more locally and then crying about it.

**jonbuoy** · 3rd May 2014, 19:45

Originally Posted by Gianz

As I said before, they said they had no idea. Of course they never even found out because all the kiwi customers they have they just pay without checking, then they complain that nowadays everything is so expensive. In France you go on a motorbikes forum to give other fellow riders the heads up on dubious business practices and you get thanked. Here they take the side of the business. No wonder National are gonna win again.

Dubious buisiness practice would be not changing the filter but charging you to do it. Charging RRP on oil isn't dubious practice. What industry do you work in?

**Gianz** · 4th May 2014, 12:32

Originally Posted by jonbuoy

Dubious buisiness practice would be not changing the filter but charging you to do it. Charging RRP on oil isn't dubious practice. What industry do you work in?

You clearly can't read.

**Gianz** · 4th May 2014, 12:35

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Some of us take the side of the business because we too are in the industry and have heard it all before. And hey...if National getting back in worries you...you could always fly home!

It's a pity because you come out as a nice guy so I don't understand why you would want to defend your competitors instead of taking the distance from such practices.
As for the flying thing, boring.

**Crasherfromwayback** · 4th May 2014, 12:43

Originally Posted by Gianz

It's a pity because you come out as a nice guy so I don't understand why you would want to defend your competitors instead of taking the distance from such practices.
As for the flying thing, boring.

They're not competitors mate. And if you have a wee look at my previous posts regarding this matter...you'll see I've the whole time said I think them charging more for the oil out back in bulk than the shit out front is bad practice. But you guys (and girls) that come onto forums and slag shops off before sorting things out in person can do more harm than the *offending* shop deserves. Think about it for a minute.

And as boring as the flying bit may be....I guess it matches the randomness of your National comment.

**FJRider** · 4th May 2014, 13:05

Originally Posted by Gianz

It's a pity because you come out as a nice guy so I don't understand why you would want to defend your competitors instead of taking the distance from such practices.
As for the flying thing, boring.

The next time you want your bike serviced (because you are too dam lazy to do it yourself) ... take it to Crasher' in Wellington. I'm pretty sure you'll find he IS a nice guy ... and how much "Competition" Colemans IS to him ...

**pritch** · 4th May 2014, 13:20

Originally Posted by BuzzardNZ

I doubt Doctors or Lawyers get paid that much

Are you in for a shock when next you need a lawyer!

**Crasherfromwayback** · 4th May 2014, 13:22

Originally Posted by pritch

Are you in for a shock when next you need a lawyer!

Let alone a fucking dentist! Costs me $150.00 to shake the cunts hand!

**Smifffy** · 4th May 2014, 13:25

I get my bike and my cages serviced at garages, and ya know what pisses me off the most? It's happened with both the bike and the cage, and both from the authorised service agents for each. Both service agents are out of town. I book the things in a good couple of weeks in advance, then when I go to pick them up they're like "Oh we didn't have an air filter for it, we'll give you a call when it comes in, and you can drop by and we'll fit it in for you. It should be here next week". I think that's bullshit. Assholes at the cage garage then even "forgot" to order the damn thing so 3 weeks later when I'm there and ask 'em why they didn't call me, and where's my air filter the same guy (the boss) goes "eh? what?" then tells me in his best customer service voice that he'll order it right away and it should be here by the end of the week. One reason I don't DIY for that is because I can't do the reset on the computer display to tell it the service has been done, and stop showing the message.

Hmm that message is showing again. Blah

Both times I took the air filter away and fitted it myself anyway. I know it's not that difficult, just annoying.

**oldrider** · 4th May 2014, 15:48

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Let alone a fucking dentist! Costs me $150.00 to shake the cunts hand!

Do not bight the hand that fixes your teeth! ..... You can get even by getting all your teeth out and then buy a set of dentures from a dental mechanic!