Come to New Zealand and die

[Katman]

5 days prior to test he obviously was and he was in possession of one of our $600,000 rigs with a million bucks worth of goods on, driving on the same road as your grand kids and every other road user as well.

So he may not have been impaired when he was driving your truck.

(And we all know you wouldn't know impairment if it visited your family home, right?)

[blue rider]

You fuckin serious.
5 days prior to test he obviously was and he was in possession of one of our $600,000 rigs with a million bucks worth of goods on, driving on the same road as your grand kids and every other road user as well.

As usual your still a bloody retard!
Back on ignore!

just out of curiosity, is testing also done for alcohol, and or prescription drugs such as Tremadol?
If someone has one or several drinks the night before going of to travel in a rig or on a balloon how is that impairment considered?

I am just asking, as it seems there is the perception that canabis use = refer madness and shit reaction etc, however alcohol = right on bro, have another one, no harm done. And have a couple of painkillers....cause its legal.

[gammaguy]

pretty isolated incident.

Im far more concerned about the tourists that come here and kill our citizens with their reckless disregard for our road rules - a far more common occurrence than balloon accidents.

Totally agree with the fact we need to carefully manage who we let loose on our roads.

Our whole tourism industry needs a big overhaul

Never mind though aye,shell be right

[Banditbandit]

come up with the test, ill do a before an after.

Jeez ... there'd be little difference for a "before and after" from your blood ..

[avgas]

I'M A FUCKING PILOT!!!

[Banditbandit]

I'M A FUCKING PILOT!!!

Are you wasted or something bro ???

[MVnut]

Can't understand why you all are sympathetic to the pilot, he murdered his passengers...what would you be saying if it was your family members dead

[Katman]

Can't understand why you all are sympathetic to the pilot, he murdered his passengers...what would you be saying if it was your family members dead

If he wasn't impaired at the time then the worst he did was make a terrible mistake.

If he was impaired at the time then he fucked up big time and deserves outright condemnation. Trouble is, we'll never know.

To say he murdered his passengers though doesn't say much for your rationality.

[Bassmatt]

Seems that there is an assumption here that if someone smokes pot then its always a big fat one and they get themselves totally ripped. It is possible to smoke a little bit just to "take the edge off", in the same way you may have one or two beers to do the same thing.

[Grubber]

just out of curiosity, is testing also done for alcohol, and or prescription drugs such as Tremadol?
If someone has one or several drinks the night before going of to travel in a rig or on a balloon how is that impairment considered?

I am just asking, as it seems there is the perception that canabis use = refer madness and shit reaction etc, however alcohol = right on bro, have another one, no harm done. And have a couple of painkillers....cause its legal.

We test for everything.
If there was alcohol involved he wouldn't have been going anywhere either, as per our policy. If he was in fact tested over the legal limit he would have suffered the same consequence but if under he would have been stood down until further notice without pay.
Likewise with any drugs of any kind unless they have sufficient medical clearance to state otherwise.
Basically if you have it in your system it is just a matter of how much with alcohol, if it's still under the legal limit we just hold them back if it's over then they are gone. With dope or drugs of any kind then they are automatically gone as there is legal requirements we have to meet by law and by our insurance company that requires us to dismiss them. Impaired or otherwise due to the fact that at some stage they definitely were impaired and law states that they must be clear of all drugs whilst operating a heavy vehicle. Personally i agree.

[gammaguy]

Seems that there is an assumption here that if someone smokes pot then its always a big fat one and they get themselves totally ripped. It is possible to smoke a little bit just to "take the edge off", in the same way you may have one or two beers to do the same thing.

Next time you fly,see how you feel if the pilot has a couple of beers in the bar before boarding.

If you think that's cool I suspect you will be a minority.

All I can say is that anyone who is happy to place their life in the hands of a drug affected person either has a strong belief in the afterlife or is tired of their current one

[pritch]

Originally Posted by MVnut
(which I don't actually agree with)

No shit.

That about sums it up.

[oneblackflag]

Next time you fly,see how you feel if the pilot has a couple of beers in the bar before boarding.

If you think that's cool I suspect you will be a minority.

If he wasn't 'impaired' I couldn't give a fuck.

[MVnut]

If he wasn't impaired at the time then the worst he did was make a terrible mistake.

If he was impaired at the time then he fucked up big time and deserves outright condemnation. Trouble is, we'll never know.

To say he murdered his passengers though doesn't say much for your rationality.

In my opinion it has been proven (enough for me anyway) that he was under the influence, therefore committing a crime by piloting the balloon...then when people get killed while committing a crime (felony) it becomes murder

[Bassmatt]

Next time you fly,see how you feel if the pilot has a couple of beers in the bar before boarding.

If you think that's cool I suspect you will be a minority.

All I can say is that anyone who is happy to place their life in the hands of a drug affected person either has a strong belief in the afterlife or is tired of their current one

Two beers? I couldn't care less. I'd be more worried if I knew he had been up all night watching tv and hadn't had enough sleep. But of course its only those evil drugs which cause impairment.