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    Should be consigned to supermarket parking lots! ... The number of unregistered unwarranted unroadworthy vehicles parking there is astonishing!

    If I am waiting for her indoors I sometimes just wonder around the parking lot and check a few vehicles out just filling in time, amazing!

    Careful where we park our car now try to park as far away where others don't park, if they don't care about their own they sure as hell wont care about ours!

    Death by a thousand dings and you get no insurance for them and the dickwits don't give a fuck ... your just screwed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    That ticket is illegal and the cops know it! If your speedo is legally allowed to be 10% inaccurate you can hardly be blamed for being up to 10% over.
    Please do share where you got those facts from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoristheBiter View Post
    Please do share where you got those facts from.
    Pretty much... they don't test speedometers for accuracy in NZ, and it's not a requirement in the VIRM. In fact there are only very modest requirements for one in the VIRM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imdying View Post
    Pretty much... they don't test speedometers for accuracy in NZ, and it's not a requirement in the VIRM. In fact there are only very modest requirements for one in the VIRM.
    So? the point? (in relation to SWB post)

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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    That ticket is illegal and the cops know it! If your speedo is legally allowed to be 10% inaccurate you can hardly be blamed for being up to 10% over.
    Even IF that were true and I doubt it its redundant in this case as the offender pretty much confessed to speeding and confirmed/accepted the 94 figure by asking about tolerance.
    That's why the cops enjoy letting people have a rant as somewhere in their spiel they confess to the speeding or whatever and therefore throw away any chance of defending the charge/ticket.
    And a judge wouldn't even hear the case unless you presented some stunning evidence at deposition of why you stand a glimmer of being innocent.
    I got pulled in truck one night for 112 kph with broken speedo from two days earlier, told the cop and he said but you know your definitely above 90 and I agreed and whamo no chance of getting of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    That ticket is illegal and the cops know it!
    Every ticket is illegal, but I wouldn't give the Police gang that much credit as to say they know it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    I've had some poor 'customer service' from them at times but mostly due to the inept civilian tools they have at the comms centre with idiots talking over you while your trying to give the rego number of an offender leaving the scene...
    On the way back from Chch last night I had a truck about 3m off my arse. I was making full and entire use of the national speed limit, so the fact he caught up to me (passing another truck in the process) was a bit unnerving. Pretty heavy duty fucker with a trailer to boot, but not quite B train.

    In the rear-view I could see that he had a VERY interesting front numberplate setup. It was mounted to a hinged flap, and the flap was perfectly visible at 50km's. On the open road it was blown back to about a 70 degree angle. Any speed camera or passing motorist would have zero chance of spotting it. It was such that at first glance I didn't even think he had a plate.

    When we *555'd them the lady at the call centre seemed entirely blase about the whole thing and simply said they had no-one in the area at the time but they would note it down.

    From memory of previous posts you know a fair bit.. what do you reckon - standard fare? simple oversight? or the dodgiest cunt truckie that ever dodged cunts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    most cops are fucking morons. just like most normal people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoristheBiter View Post
    Please do share where you got those facts from.
    Admittedly it was something I was told by someone in the know about 30 years ago. Whether it's actually in legislation in such clear terms remains to be seen.

    Anyway, for all practical purposes it's impossible to predict what the speed gun is going to read for any given reading on the car's speedo. Hell, the early ones in Britain registered a tree doing 100mph and a microwave doing 300.

    When a cop pulls someone over for 4kph over the limit they cannot say with any certainty at all that the driver was deliberately speeding. At least at 10 over the chances of the speed being normal fluctuations for terrain etc. are much lower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Even IF that were true and I doubt it its redundant in this case as the offender pretty much confessed to speeding and confirmed/accepted the 94 figure by asking about tolerance.
    Indeed

    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    I got pulled in truck one night for 112 kph with broken speedo from two days earlier, told the cop and he said but you know your definitely above 90 and I agreed and whamo no chance of getting of that.
    I think they gave you the wrong ticket. Surely a "working" speedo is a legal requirement?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    Every ticket is illegal, but I wouldn't give the Police gang that much credit as to say they know it.
    Yeah, that would be endowing them with a level of deviousness that's probably beyond most of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    Admittedly it was something I was told by someone in the know about 30 years ago. Whether it's actually in legislation in such clear terms remains to be seen.

    Anyway, for all practical purposes it's impossible to predict what the speed gun is going to read for any given reading on the car's speedo. Hell, the early ones in Britain registered a tree doing 100mph and a microwave doing 300.

    When a cop pulls someone over for 4kph over the limit they cannot say with any certainty at all that the driver was deliberately speeding. At least at 10 over the chances of the speed being normal fluctuations for terrain etc. are much lower.
    It's not.
    All they have to prove is you were going over the speed limit.
    whether or not the drivers knows that, the speedo is correct/incorrect or you were/weren't aware of it is irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    oh, one can defend oneself son.
    the pen is mightier than the sword, and all that.

    words like "CONsent" (i do not) and "jurisdiction" (fuckoff) actually still carry weight when you go to the bank (bench) and see the fully grown men playing dressups and talking funny (court/ caught).

    learn to use em good. most cops are fucking morons. just like most normal people.

    and they day they have no weight at crown court, well, then we load the magazines and bandoliers and, err, enforce the peace against those determined to fuck it up.
    Fuck you're SO full of shit!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixie View Post
    Ohh fucking wonderful.
    So you give them a ticket for whatever and let them go off and continue their shit driving habits and attitudes.
    So,how did that achieve anything.
    Dumb fucking cops.
    OK, I'll bite on a lame troll (Lame ones are easier to catch)

    So, assuming the driver can't be dealt with by anything 'stronger' than a ticket how do YOU suggest these drivers be taken off the road? Or soundly educated while they're stopped?

    If they can be taken off the road on the spot they generally are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Fuck you're SO full of shit!
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