Govt-owes-us-a-living types

[Ulsterkiwi]

Kia ora e hoa. He mea nui tēnā.

What about the Māori who agree with you???







Not all of it - there was huge amounts of confiscations ... and demonstrably wrong confiscations - such as calling Tuhoe "rebels" which they may well have been - but no-one wanted Te Uruwera - so land belonging other iwi was confiscated .. iwi who were not rebels then (but guess what angry people become???)

Waikato was deliberately attacked - and when they fought back they were declared "rebels" and land was confiscated ...

The peaceful village of Parihaka was invaded by troops - the troops were met by women and children bearing food and flowers for the soldiers .. they were ridden down by the troops, the village sacked .. the women raped ...

We have a bloody history - just like all other groups of people ..


Should we turn our back on our Pākehā relations because we've had enough of them ??? No - we did not do that.


You are wrong to label a whole ethnic culture like that - there are just as many Pākehā who think they are owed a living ... and some of us Māori just get jobs and work .. like the rest of us living together in this land.

Not that you need my approval, but that was a good post. Nice to see the occasional one which is underscored by some fact and coherent thought.

[mstriumph]

Trying to validate theft in order to 'feed the whanau' and blaming the govt for 'd.i.c' charges because it affects their ability to provide,unbeleiveable!Well we certainly had many distressfull times financialy growing up (and still do) when there was little to choose from (sometimes porridge for tea) but we never went out stealing and dad shot the odd rabbit and deer in order to help us get by and nor did my folks drink/smoke.The conversation then turned to the guy who burgled the golf club and was shot,this went downhill very quickly when I didn't agree.Apparently that was his cuzz who was 'just trying to feed the whanau'.Ive had enough of maori and intend avoiding them and their backward mentality-cant even disagree without them near on losing it physically.I believe we have totally differen't mindsets,like chalk n cheese-if only they evolved and stopped reverting to the reptillia part of their brain to resolve situation's we could really be 'bro's'......in the mean time I wont be lowering my (basic) standards in order to get on and nor do I wish to be the subject of intimidation and disrespectfull behaviour because im white and see things differently-that's all I can put it down to anyway..........no wonder the majority of my family don't intergrate with them what so ever,smart ppl!

My whanau includes Maori among others (we are an ethically-diverse lot). Some of us are good, some of us are better - we mostly all work (and, incidentally, can all spell and punctuate correctly - please feel free to take that anyway you want).

However, the main thing common to all of us is that we don't blacken everyone in other families, races or other grouping just because some of them behave badly (because that's what bigots, idiots and arseholes do ... and you can take THAT any way you like, too)

[Big Dog]

Not all Maori are feral, not all Gerald are Maori.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[sil3nt]

And Tainui gifting land back to HCC - ironic.

Land that needs hundreds of thousands spent on it before it can become usable. Thanks Tainui!

[wharekura]

Land that needs hundreds of thousands spent on it before it can become usable. Thanks Tainui!

Typical. Give people something for nothing and they still moan and bitch

I suppose that would be the same as RCC giving Lake Rotorua back polluted.

[wharekura]

Not all of it - there was huge amounts of confiscations ...

Please keep to uneducated banter so ppl like me can understand. And stop making sense. Next you will have people agreeing with you!

[Akzle]

no one owes me anything.

Until they impose untenable conditions against me.
They create the debt, they must provide the remedy.

[Blackbird]

It's not the colour of the skin man,it's the attitude to life.Plenty from all races and backgrounds could fit your rave.
I grew up in Whakatane and didn't learn about racism until I moved to Auckland!

Spot on

I came to Tokoroa from the UK in 1975. Just about every race was represented there but you didn't really notice as everyone was there to make a buck and all pitched in socially.

[Robert Taylor]

Whitey paid you a fair price and now he's paying a hugely inflated price to give it back to you. Think you did well both times. FFS build a bridge

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Yep,

How many times have we had ''full and final treaty settlements''? Only for a top up settlement to follow a decade or two later

How many of these so called Maoris have more European blood than Maori? How can they live with 60% or more of their blood ''oppressing'' the other 40% or less of their bloodstream?

How many of these ''oppressed peoples'' came from tribes that invaded and slaughtered ( and often ate ) other tribal groups? Are the remaining survivors of those slaughtered tribes going to get settlements with top ups in perpetuity? ( There were likely more Maoris slaughtered by tribal warfare than what the white man was responsible for )

The hypocrisy is breathtaking.

I have two grandchildren that are part Maori. They are being bought up as New Zealanders and that the world does not owe them a living from the annals of history. And often the misinterpretations / distortions of, purely for pecuniary gain.

[Ocean1]

we are an ethically-diverse lot

and, incidentally, can all spell and punctuate correctly

I'm sure there's room for a bunch of gender related inyouendo there, but I'll restrain myself to pondering the apparent contradiction.


For now.

[Kickaha]

The peaceful village of Parihaka was invaded by troops - the troops were met by women and children bearing food and flowers for the soldiers .. they were ridden down by the troops, the village sacked .. the women raped ..

I've read quite a few articles about Parihaka from different sources, I've yet to see one mention anyone being "ridden down" except for one child losing a toe when it was stood on by a horse

[Akzle]

purely for pecuniary gain.

thats why everyone plays the game, innit.

Dem murrays just a bit smarter dan youse cracker fullaz, hit da gews up on some contractual shit, rather than just head-down-ass-up-pass-the-vaseline taxation routine teh govt imposes.
Back to work, pleb.

[jellywrestler]

You said the M word oooohhhh that's racist

david attenborough, they're 'the Mud People'

[mstriumph]

I'm sure there's room for a bunch of gender related inyouendo there, but I'll restrain myself to pondering the apparent contradiction.


For now.

no contradiction ... just playing with your head (well, HIS head, actually ... lol)

[BuzzardNZ]

david attenborough, they're 'the Mud People'

I think when he said that, he was referring to the Filipinos.