Vic Motorcycle Club committee meetings?

[jellywrestler]

Hmmm, opens the door for it to be a free for all. Not a good idea in my opinion.

Submissions can be made to the committee via the appropriate member pertaining to the subject.

The free for all is the AGM. That is the right time for any and all members to be present.

Shaun, the right way to do what you are trying to is contact the pres or secretary, and have them table the matter amongst themselves. So they can be honest with each other and not under any pressure.

I'd rather a club be open and welcome people to come in and particapate, it's up to whoever is chairing the meeting to control it.
All too often organisations run with a closed door policy and where does that get us in the end?
Having someone there to speak in person means the whole thing can be discussed, then the committee can table the matter amongst themselves with more relevant information, that'll speed up the process than your Nazi method.

[jellywrestler]

Tick tock, tick tock, tick tock.....

[Drew]

I'd rather a club be open and welcome people to come in and particapate, it's up to whoever is chairing the meeting to control it.
All too often organisations run with a closed door policy and where does that get us in the end?
Having someone there to speak in person means the whole thing can be discussed, then the committee can table the matter amongst themselves with more relevant information, that'll speed up the process than your Nazi method.

That's a perfectly valid view point. Perhaps you should table the idea for consideration at the next AGM. The way you're bloody meant to. Since that is the ONLY time that changes can be made to a constitution.

Anyone wanna enlighten everyone why we can't just decide to ignore the way a club is set up? Too fucken slow. It's because the club is a legal and financial entity. So, do things however ya please and the shit can hit the fan.

[jellywrestler]

I'd rather a club be open and welcome people to come in and particapate, it's up to whoever is chairing the meeting to control it.
All too often organisations run with a closed door policy and where does that get us in the end?
Having someone there to speak in person means the whole thing can be discussed, then the committee can table the matter amongst themselves with more relevant information, that'll speed up the process than your Nazi method.

That's a perfectly valid view point. Perhaps you should table the idea for consideration at the next AGM. The way you're bloody meant to. Since that is the ONLY time that changes can be made to a constitution.

Anyone wanna enlighten everyone why we can't just decide to ignore the way a club is set up? Too fucken slow. It's because the club is a legal and financial entity. So, do things however ya please and the shit can hit the fan.

You're rabbiting on about good English yet you can't read what I've written. My veiwpoint is not specifically aimed at any one club at all, are you bad at understanding English or just good at putting words into people's mouths?

[Drew]

You're rabbiting on about good English yet you can't read what I've written. My veiwpoint is not specifically aimed at any one club at all, are you bad at understanding English or just good at putting words into people's mouths?

I made mention that yours was your view point only. And presented how to implement it if you feel inclined.

Who is putting words in the mouth of whom?

[Shaun Harris]

Simply, do things in the right fucken order. You attention whoring gnome!

There's a lesson in structuring a sentence in that for ya too. You're welcome

Find my name on any of the bikes I financually supported last season dude and we will talk again re attn seeking and your form hahaha

[Shaun Harris]

I'd rather a club be open and welcome people to come in and particapate, it's up to whoever is chairing the meeting to control it.
All too often organisations run with a closed door policy and where does that get us in the end?
Having someone there to speak in person means the whole thing can be discussed, then the committee can table the matter amongst themselves with more relevant information, that'll speed up the process than your Nazi method.

Like your logic Jelly, some people just read and re peat every thing they say with out actually thinking it through them self properlly in the first place.

And AGM and clubs are not the same thing

[nodrog:Me]

Any meeting Shaun attends should be behind closed doors, chaired by a psychiatrist.

[Shaun Harris]

Any meeting Shaun attends should be behind closed doors, chaired by a psychiatrist.

Do not panick man, I bring my own streight jacket and meds, the OTHER ME makes sure I do

[Mental Trousers]

Section 10

http://vicclub.co.nz/constitution.php

In particular 10.7

• Subject to these Rules, the Committee may regulate its own practices;

So if VMCC wants to hold Committee meetings that are open to it's members there's nothing to stop them, although ideally that should be spelt out in the Constitution.

There isn't anything to say whether Club Members or the Public get to address the Committee so that should be stated. However, it clearly states that only Committee Members get to vote, not Club Members and definitely not the Public (includes non-members like Shaun - actually, just guessing Shaun's not a member ...)

[Drew]

Like your logic Jelly, some people just read and re peat every thing they say with out actually thinking it through them self properlly in the first place.

And AGM and clubs are not the same thing

AGM. Annual General Meeting. Something clubs usually have to have, with very few exceptions. Committee meetings however, are just that. They are for the committee.

A club can have as many general meetings as it wants, but if it's constitution requires regular committee meetings then it is for the committee only.

Repeating what I've heard? No, sat on a couple of committees and have a basic understanding of them.

As for members wanting to know what is going on in these meetings, minutes must be available to all financial members at request.

This is all basic stuff fellas, if you are a member of the club you are also able to get a copy of the constitution for looking over at your leisure.

[Grumph]

Hmmm, opens the door for it to be a free for all. Not a good idea in my opinion.

Submissions can be made to the committee via the appropriate member pertaining to the subject.

The free for all is the AGM. That is the right time for any and all members to be present.

Shaun, the right way to do what you are trying to is contact the pres or secretary, and have them table the matter amongst themselves. So they can be honest with each other and not under any pressure.

I've been on a few club committees - though not, admittedly the Vic club....and SOP is that members always have the right to attend meetings but speaking rights usually have to be negotiated with the chairman. And often voted on too...

The AGM is not the place to bring up other business as it should be run to a pre published agenda. You're there for specific tasks - not bringing up arguments or new schemes. "Normal" committee meetings are the best place to air those things.

[Shaun Harris]

Are you all ok with this now proffessor Drew- I guess my 28 years of heavy involvement in OUR sport has taught me a couple of things, and If I do not know, I ask some one that does before rabbiting on, often by posts on here as there are a lot of people on here that know what they are talking about and are passionate enough to do searches to awnser my questions- to them THANK YOU I say

[nodrog:Me]

Are you all ok with this now proffessor Drew- I guess my 28 years of heavy involvement in OUR sport has taught me a couple of things, and If I do not know, I ask some one that does before rabbiting on, often by posts on here as there are a lot of people on here that know what they are talking about and are passionate enough to do searches to awnser my questions- to them THANK YOU I say

Its past your bedtime Shaun.

[Shaun Harris]

Its past your bedtime Shaun.

Haha I do so like a good MASTER - ( DE) bate, and as my work is on the internet these days sitting in the luxury of my own house, I seem to have time to drop in on here regually, bugger for you all eh