Straightening the road

[Berries]

My work here is done.




Nanu nanu.

[unstuck]

But what about those corners where you think you can see all the way through it, but you can't.

[george formby]

But what about those corners where you think you can see all the way through it, but you can't.

And dips, too. Don't forget dips. Been caught out by more dips than misjudged corners. Not to the point of being twatted thankfully. Just had to breath in a bit.

[dinosaur]

Why 'straighten the road' - I thought motorcycling was all about flowing through the bends and corners.

Better visibilty for a start
better lines and less to avoid less desirable elements like wet tar, water, road works, loose pea metal .......
If you can see clearly - why not?

[unstuck]

And dips, too. Don't forget dips. Been caught out by more dips than misjudged corners. Not to the point of being twatted thankfully. Just had to breath in a bit.

Yeah, those dips are bad news, we should ban them, and corners. Keep everything straight and orderly, that way all the tards have less to hurt themselves on.

[dinosaur]

No discussion needed.
$150.
Ka-ching!

I think you'll find you maybe wrong (yes i know what you do for a living) but there is no law preventing you from crossing the center line - yes keep as far left as practical - but whats Practical

As i understand it;
Yellow no passing line - is actually the only time you are legally required to stay on the left of that line (and you can still overtake as long as you stay to the left of the solid yellow line, have a 100 meters clear visibility .... bla bla bla)

A solid white line is used to show traffic lanes where traffic is being directed to stay in the lane, and shouldn't be crossed as they are designed to direct traffic flow (mainly in town or motorways, you'll find solid white lines on main roads where there is some kind of obstacle to vision ahead or around the corner that may catch a driver or rider out

However I would caution that using the 'whole road' where you can so you can go faster is foolish - and leaves you in the position of not being able to get back onto your side of the road should something come the other way or you missed some thing

[Ulsterkiwi]

Fascinating discussion, especially when I was told there wasnt anything to discuss

I guess what this has shown (like many other threads) is that no discussion can cover each and every scenario. Every rider makes a series of decisions on every ride and they are usually the 'best' that can be made at that time; few will deliberately choose to put themselves in imminent danger!

I tend to think part of the fun and challenge of riding a motorcycle is getting most out of your machine in the road space available to you. That usually means the lane you are in.
I wondered what the Police would think of maximising that space a bit more by straightening the road if conditions allowed. It seems they don't like it and some of us don't like that they don't like it.....or something........

Another question. I know BRONZ, Ulysses and similar groups have contact with the authorities. Is there any statuatory obligation on the Police or NZTA to regularly consult with the public on reviewing or updating legislation and policy on road rules and policing?

[dinosaur]

Cornering while crossing white lines is running the risk of coming off as the road is wet and far to much time was riding the centre line risking a head on. They overlook the possibility of someone doing a left hand turn out of a driveway and having a head on.

Yes white lines are bloody slippery of course - but it all depends on level of experience, bike and tyre choice, and direction of corner.

if you're cornering and leaning to the right - and come off you'll go to the side of the road (and could end up wrapped around a power pole, or fence baton) but not likely to head into on coming traffic
However the same could be said for keeping too far left and hitting the outside white line

I don't mind a little bit of slippage int he right direction - and with good tyres and suspension my bike doesn't slip very often at all - when it does it regains traction real quick

You always - always need to be aware of the possibilty of some pulling out of any drive or intersection
Worst is when you're overtaking and some one pulls out into the oncoming lane heading toward you ....... fuckin heart stopping moments

[haydes55]

If you are able to have a choice as to whether you corner on a white line or not some of us would rather avoid and just save any cornering on white lines for when it's for the purpose of avoiding something else.

I don't know why wet white lines are even being mentioned in this thread, straightening a corner means you will be taking a bend closer to straight.... So less lean angle.... So less concern about grip.

How do you manage to get over a painted white line at a give way sign in the rain?

[Ulsterkiwi]

I don't know why wet white lines are even being mentioned in this thread, straightening a corner means you will be taking a bend closer to straight.... So less lean angle.... So less concern about grip.

How do you manage to get over a painted white line at a give way sign in the rain?

this, definitely this

[bogan]

How do you manage to get over a painted white line at a give way sign in the rain?

Pretty sure in another thread she mentioned they were shiny and she just couldn't see them; sounds safe right?

[george formby]

this, definitely this

Pulling away from a wet junction or less lean dangle?

A new chapter dawns. Straighten the road to be safer & smoother or to be faster?

[swbarnett]

But what about those corners where you think you can see all the way through it, but you can't.

I think that's been covered already.

[Ulsterkiwi]

Pulling away from a wet junction or less lean dangle?

A new chapter dawns. Straighten the road to be safer & smoother or to be faster?

less lean.The reason we lean is to get around the corners right? If we straighten those corners there is less lean required. I thought the whole idea of straightening the road was supposed to make things smoother and safer. Discussing leaning on white lines while wet is a bit distracting.

I have been wrong before and it will happen again.

[swbarnett]

How do you manage to get over a painted white line at a give way sign in the rain?

That brings back a not to happy memory. Took off from the lights once and as my rear tyre crossed the white paint it slid out to the right - straight towards the underside of a rather large truck. I remember looking at the truck thinking "I'm toast!". Luckily there was enough forward momentum and I was yanked back on line when tyre once again hit tarmac.