South Auckland Street Skills

[eldog]

[QUOTE=Big Dog;1130735122]

There is also more of the work you can do yourself and parts are cheaper.
Had I known that I would have a small windfall of 2k just after I sold the busa.

how does the busa compare to the CB, different horses for different courses?

Doing work myself, I have 2 left hands and two right feet, always well meaning but seem to do things backwards first (just me) so takes longer.

I have been offered rides and lessons for off road experience for free, which is nice, but haven't taken offer up due to work, not sure if confident enough and wanted to offer to pay - something maybe I will do over later (want to be able to pay for use and damages )

with SASS I am getting better I think

[Big Dog]

[QUOTE=eldog;1130735198]

how does the busa compare to the CB, different horses for different courses?

Doing work myself, I have 2 left hands and two right feet, always well meaning but seem to do things backwards first (just me) so takes longer.

I have been offered rides and lessons for off road experience for free, which is nice, but haven't taken offer up due to work, not sure if confident enough and wanted to offer to pay - something maybe I will do over later (want to be able to pay for use and damages )

with SASS I am getting better I think

Completely different beasts...
For a trip to Taupo from here I'd rather take the Hayabusa.
Gnarly as down the back straight of Pukekohe the couple of times i have been round on the way out from marshaling. Absolute mile muncher, still pretty sharp round the Coromandel loop but it makes you work for your lunch.
It will turn very tight with the right in put. With a bit of practice I could put it round the RC track including the dreaded hairpin... but that is tethering the clutch the whole way. The big downside to the Hayabusa is that when lanesplitting you get very sore forearms. From a heavy hydraulic clutch and gearing that has a minimum recommended speed in first of 20kmph (but to be honest 35 is more realistic) and the low bars.

I have not had the CB long enough to form that kind of partnership but it turns so easily I doubt it would be hard.
It does everything you could ask of a commuter exceptionally well except be thrifty with the fuel.

The CB is quite sedate by comparison happy to lug around below 5 kmph without the clutch, although that will probably change a little when i put a bigger front sprocket on, but she will still have a go at pulling your arms off.
CB is superior below 80kmph. Hayabusa superior above 130kmph, to the point the CB feels almost like you are being mean to it going over 120 so I never have possibly because it only has 5 gears and in top it feels like there ought to be one more.
I suspect the previous owner went down a tooth at the front or up 3 at the back to improve acceleration. The other one I test rode did not feel like it ran out of gears so early.
When I have a little spare capital I will add a tooth or two to the front this should remedy the thirsty nature... hopefully without ruining the low speed handling.

If I could have both I would. Selling Cleopatra to buy Jezebel was a purely financial decision. I could not afford the upkeep of a bike that needed types of maintenance that were outside my skill set. The CB is much simpler mechanically.
Selling Cleopatra was made easier by the fact that she had been parked up for various intervals totaling over 2 out of the last four years. I felt guilty owning a bike like that that was not getting used because it needed bits I could not afford to buy. The new owner has fixed her up real nice.

IF I ever find myself in the position to indulge myself in a toy bike (and I already have the Alice DR running) I have no doubt another Hypertourer is on the cards. Maybe not until I can afford to go touring regularly... until then I am sure the CB will do a fine job if the opportunity arose to go do a south island trip... especially given I have done a Cape Rienga trip on a 110 cc scooter. Size is not the be all and end all but the boy inside likes big bore bikes At least 1/2 of that is that I like a bike that is physically larger.
IF I can find a good one the Hayabusa is likely to be a preferred choice. I have to be honest having not ridden the newer model I prefer the looks of the older model.

[eldog]

[QUOTE=Big Dog;1130735208]

Completely different beasts...
For a trip to Taupo from here I'd rather take the Hayabusa.
Gnarly as down the back straight of Pukekohe the couple of times i have been round on the way out from marshaling. Absolute mile muncher, still pretty sharp round the Coromandel loop but it makes you work for your lunch.
It will turn very tight with the right in put. With a bit of practice I could put it round the RC track including the dreaded hairpin... but that is tethering the clutch the whole way. The big downside to the Hayabusa is that when lanesplitting you get very sore forearms. From a heavy hydraulic clutch and gearing that has a minimum recommended speed in first of 20kmph (but to be honest 35 is more realistic) and the low bars.

I have not had the CB long enough to form that kind of partnership but it turns so easily I doubt it would be hard.
It does everything you could ask of a commuter exceptionally well except be thrifty with the fuel.

The CB is quite sedate by comparison happy to lug around below 5 kmph without the clutch, although that will probably change a little when i put a bigger front sprocket on, but she will still have a go at pulling your arms off.
CB is superior below 80kmph. Hayabusa superior above 130kmph, to the point the CB feels almost like you are being mean to it going over 120 so I never have possibly because it only has 5 gears and in top it feels like there ought to be one more.
I suspect the previous owner went down a tooth at the front or up 3 at the back to improve acceleration. The other one I test rode did not feel like it ran out of gears so early.
When I have a little spare capital I will add a tooth or two to the front this should remedy the thirsty nature... hopefully without ruining the low speed handling.

If I could have both I would. Selling Cleopatra to buy Jezebel was a purely financial decision. I could not afford the upkeep of a bike that needed types of maintenance that were outside my skill set. The CB is much simpler mechanically.
Selling Cleopatra was made easier by the fact that she had been parked up for various intervals totaling over 2 out of the last four years. I felt guilty owning a bike like that that was not getting used because it needed bits I could not afford to buy. The new owner has fixed her up real nice.

IF I ever find myself in the position to indulge myself in a toy bike (and I already have the Alice DR running) I have no doubt another Hypertourer is on the cards. Maybe not until I can afford to go touring regularly... until then I am sure the CB will do a fine job if the opportunity arose to go do a south island trip... especially given I have done a Cape Rienga trip on a 110 cc scooter. Size is not the be all and end all but the boy inside likes big bore bikes At least 1/2 of that is that I like a bike that is physically larger.
IF I can find a good one the Hayabusa is likely to be a preferred choice. I have to be honest having not ridden the newer model I prefer the looks of the older model.

nice! I havent ridden a busa or a CB but appreciate the info - makes sense to me. I would go with the CB as it sounds more practical and reliable but maybe a little boring. enjoy the ride, make use of its nature. My Scorpio is great loves going from 50 to 100 = SASS as the local roads suit it.
Yeah, my time for the financial decision is coming up, going to finish my current project upgrade. then see what happens. still in two minds - love the riding, but other things are pressing...

[nzspokes]

[QUOTE=eldog;1130735288]

nice! I havent ridden a busa or a CB but appreciate the info - makes sense to me. I would go with the CB as it sounds more practical and reliable but maybe a little boring. enjoy the ride, make use of its nature. My Scorpio is great loves going from 50 to 100 = SASS as the local roads suit it.
Yeah, my time for the financial decision is coming up, going to finish my current project upgrade. then see what happens. still in two minds - love the riding, but other things are pressing...

Ive ridden a CB and I reckon what you bought is a better bike. I do wonder why they make bikes like CBs so heavy when they dont need to. Alloy frame and some upside down forks would help them a lot.

I think you have the right bike.

Me, I would like a to and from work bike like a KTM390. So I can go big on the Superhawk motor....

[eldog]

[QUOTE=nzspokes;1130735298]

Ive ridden a CB and I reckon what you bought is a better bike. I do wonder why they make bikes like CBs so heavy when they dont need to. Alloy frame and some upside down forks would help them a lot.

I think you have the right bike.

Me, I would like a to and from work bike like a KTM390. So I can go big on the Superhawk motor....

I wasnt thinking about the bike, just interested in how other people see bikes, why they buy them and what they use them for. After you buy them then you begin to notice different things - sounds(muffler), comfort, economy blah, blah , blah and what really matters is when it is being used day to day and what people feel after they have had several different types of bikes. For some reason motorcycles seem to be traded quite rapidly, cars dont seem to traded as much (to my mind).

Big Dog seems to think along similar lines to me... I am interested in what he thinks.

I think a Bouvlevard 800 crusier would be a great bike to goto work on (15 mins) for me, or a Street Triple what a blast.
then go Big on a F800 or F700 GS adventure - money no object

havent seen a BMWr at SASS yet....

[nzspokes]

[QUOTE=eldog;1130735323]

I wasnt thinking about the bike, just interested in how other people see bikes, why they buy them and what they use them for. After you buy them then you begin to notice different things - sounds(muffler), comfort, economy blah, blah , blah and what really matters is when it is being used day to day and what people feel after they have had several different types of bikes. For some reason motorcycles seem to be traded quite rapidly, cars dont seem to traded as much (to my mind).

Big Dog seems to think along similar lines to me... I am interested in what he thinks.

I think a Bouvlevard 800 crusier would be a great bike to goto work on (15 mins) for me, or a Street Triple what a blast.
then go Big on a F800 or F700 GS adventure - money no object

havent seen a BMWr at SASS yet....

For me a little KTM would be the go. Most of my trip is through suburbs. Light little bike would be great. Even a Ginny if you could still buy a decent one would be good.

[Big Dog]

[QUOTE=nzspokes;1130735298]

Ive ridden a CB and I reckon what you bought is a better bike. I do wonder why they make bikes like CBs so heavy when they dont need to. Alloy frame and some upside down forks would help them a lot.

I think you have the right bike.

Me, I would like a to and from work bike like a KTM390. So I can go big on the Superhawk motor....

Either a DR650 or LC4 would be my ideal commuter if I could afford a commuter and a toy. If I was loaded a KTM SM.

Don't get me wrong. I love my Jezebel. I just wish I hadn't had to sell Cleopatra to buy her.

If it has to be honest? Gimme two wheels and I'll find a reason to enjoy it. Or a trike, or a sidecar, or a muscle car, hell even a unicycle.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Big Dog]

[QUOTE=eldog;1130735323]

I wasnt thinking about the bike, just interested in how other people see bikes, why they buy them and what they use them for. After you buy them then you begin to notice different things - sounds(muffler), comfort, economy blah, blah , blah and what really matters is when it is being used day to day and what people feel after they have had several different types of bikes. For some reason motorcycles seem to be traded quite rapidly, cars dont seem to traded as much (to my mind).

Big Dog seems to think along similar lines to me... I am interested in what he thinks.

I think a Bouvlevard 800 crusier would be a great bike to goto work on (15 mins) for me, or a Street Triple what a blast.
then go Big on a F800 or F700 GS adventure - money no object

havent seen a BMWr at SASS yet....

I had the busa 9 years. I have had Alice 6, pick the right bike and they will seem cheap sooner or later.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[xXGIBBOXx]

[QUOTE=nzspokes;1130735336]

For me a little KTM would be the go. Most of my trip is through suburbs. Light little bike would be great. Even a Ginny if you could still buy a decent one would be good.

Lol you could have PO in a few months . My full then street triple r , Hoonigan !

[eldog]

[QUOTE=xXGIBBOXx;1130735361]

Lol you could have PO in a few months . My full then street triple r , Hoonigan !

how time flys... sit CBTA assessment and R->F tests at xmas time then full in May tick tock
by then I will have a decision

xXGIBBOXx see you next week? on PO? LOL

[eldog]

[QUOTE=Big Dog;1130735357]

I had the busa 9 years. I have had Alice 6, pick the right bike and they will seem cheap sooner or later.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

A friend through work was about 6'7"+ he rode a Nightrod (I think-its been a while) made it look like a toy, might be something you want to try. He was one of the people who got me interested in biking again and take the plunge into giving it a go, rather than just dreaming about it.... followed by confidence boost by joining SASS

[Sis]

I didn't get knocked, just lucky I planned ahead and left it gear

Yep, you planned ahead and stop playing it down. It was more than luck. It was your skill. You were obviously watching your rear and had a hunch that the vehicle was trouble. Amazing how skilled one can get at reading what a vehicle is going to do.

[eldog]

Yep, you planned ahead and stop playing it down. It was more than luck. It was your skill. You were obviously watching your rear and had a hunch that the vehicle was trouble. Amazing how skilled one can get at reading what a vehicle is going to do.

the way they followed me after that I got the feeling they were trying to get as close as possible, pity i didnt have a camera. Yeah skill from SASS and following you.

[Sis]

Was just filling up my car at the local Z station and this bike rolled in behind, around and parked on the other side of my pump. I was so busy looking at the bike, thinking man, that was looking BAD, when a male voice said funny seeing you here.
Brand new . 361 kms on the clock. Red. Can't say much more incase I let slip who has a new toy.

[eldog]

Was just filling up my car at the local Z station and this bike rolled in behind, around and parked on the other side of my pump. I was so busy looking at the bike, thinking man, that was looking BAD, when a male voice said funny seeing you here.
Brand new . 361 kms on the clock. Red. Can't say much more incase I let slip who has a new toy.

Red, could only be a Honda, Ducati LOL aws? just a guess

whats this filling up the CAR now thats BAD