Losing your licence?

[Banditbandit]

How the fuck does someone go about getting enough demerits to have their license suspended?

Two tickets will do it. 135 - 140klicks is worth 55 demerit points - two of those and you will lose your licence .. (I believe I had 60 demerit points when I got caught at 136 klicks .. that took me over the limit ..

[Gremlin]

Two tickets will do it. 135 - 140klicks is worth 55 demerit points - two of those and you will lose your licence .. (I believe I had 60 demerit points when I got caught at 136 klicks .. that took me over the limit ..

I believe the highest amount of dm is 50. 35+ over will earn you that... I got 136 in a 100... at least it wasn't 141 I guess...

[STJim]

Novel idea... my moment of clarity was standing in front of a judge pleading for a work licence. Light bulb moment... ahhh, if I stay within the law, I won't get tickets!


I lost mine in 2008 for excess demerits. Pretty sure there is a thread here about getting one, although the process could have changed in the last 6 years. I know you get a red licence now, while I didn't. I'm actually trying to think, pretty sure it was a paper licence.

I did all the work for it myself, all the required paperwork and came out around $400, which was purely court fees and licence fees. If you're uncertain, then go the lawyer route but obviously you'll have their fees. Apparently I got one of the most lenient work licences, able to travel 9am to midnight within the bounds of greater Auckland, 6 days a week and on 2 specific Sundays for 10 weeks (3 months less the 2 weeks between loss and court date) and had to be one set vehicle. Every trip (even a couple of km) was logged, all the paperwork had to be carried at all times. Never got stopped though so don't know what kind of process they would have run through. Usually you'll get a set route to and from work, set time bracket in the morning and evening for that commute etc.

I do remember the courts saying the judges don't like too many work licence applications at one time, so they spread them out, and they aren't done every day either...

We charge a $1,000.00 for a work licence plus Court filing fees etc. The order is issued by the Court and you then have to apply for the licence. You were lucky to get that wide. In Hamilton when we file we serve the police who usually come back to us promptly if they consider it to be too wide. All over the North Island 24/7 wouldn't go down well.
I have yet to do a limited licence for a motorcycle. I wouldn't think that would be too much of a problem for a GN250 commuting to and from work by a set route. Anything much bigger which looked too much like a toy would be an interesting challenge.

[Gremlin]

We charge a $1,000.00 for a work licence plus Court filing fees etc. The order is issued by the Court and you then have to apply for the licence. You were lucky to get that wide. In Hamilton when we file we serve the police who usually come back to us promptly if they consider it to be too wide. All over the North Island 24/7 wouldn't go down well.
I have yet to do a limited licence for a motorcycle. I wouldn't think that would be too much of a problem for a GN250 commuting to and from work by a set route. Anything much bigger which looked too much like a toy would be an interesting challenge.

Yeah, I meant to add while writing actually. The whole intent is to penalise you for what you've done, but not cause undue hardship on others, ie, employer, family etc.

For my job, being in IT, I travel the city as required, SLAs to service clients, and I marked all the locations on a map, drew a boundary around it. Was something like Orewa ish to Ardmore, Titirangi to Maraetai... Specified vehicle was the CB919 Hornet, that actually wasn't any drama (plus I probably held a learners car). Biggest issue was going back and forth with prosecutions to get agreeable terms. Try telling a government employee who seems to work from 0830 to 1630 that yes, I was actually doing 13+ hour days plus on call 24/7... supplied 6 weeks of my calendar as well to prove it...

[jasonu]

Just a thought.

Don't do things that carry demerits.

Simple things almost always the best.

Prevention First.

Fair enough except some demerit offenses are petty at best and the pigs really like to hide behind bushes to catch generally law abiding folks doing them. ChaChing!!!

[Blackbird]

Worst part was, the speeding one was in a really obvious place (Marton region, SH1 long straights), not riding my bike and I didn't realise I was going that quick... Cop was the only one coming towards me, and then I looked at my speed right before he radar'd me ...

Alan, that was the location of my last points speeding offence too, albeit a good few years ago. Towing a trailer with the car at 100 km/hr when the rule was 80k. It was a mufti cop in a maroon Nissan 200SX of all things!

[Big Dog]

We charge a $1,000.00 for a work licence plus Court filing fees etc. The order is issued by the Court and you then have to apply for the licence. You were lucky to get that wide. In Hamilton when we file we serve the police who usually come back to us promptly if they consider it to be too wide. All over the North Island 24/7 wouldn't go down well.
I have yet to do a limited licence for a motorcycle. I wouldn't think that would be too much of a problem for a GN250 commuting to and from work by a set route. Anything much bigger which looked too much like a toy would be an interesting challenge.

It would be a challenge someone would have to take up if I ever went over. I would be unemployed without transport. My only viable transport mode to work is a 1300 and I have to be available to come in for a disaster.
Nearest public transport is a 10 minute drive away.

I wonder if that is why I don't ever travel faster than 1/3 of the available demerits?


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[R650R]

Never lost mine but I'd assume the cops or LTSA would send you a letter out as soon as you max out. I'd be handing over the licence asap so your back to new one quick as possible, never know what the future holds.
And COMPLY with the dates precisely. Saw a fella going bananas outside my place, got pulled for some reason and he only had 12hrs left to go on suspension but he still got impounded!

As for work licences well they give those out as freely as real licences it appears.
Muppet at our work got served, trucks running daily from Hastings to Auckland, he was allowed to drive a nominated truck for work and still drive to and from work in his evo6...
It all turned to shit pretty quick for him as he put down the number plate of good truck he was on before, but when ever you misbehave in trucking you always get demoted to the old banger at back of yard so he had to go back and grovel again to get that changed.
And at the time I'd have classed this young driver involved as the highest crash risk in our fleet too. BTW the whole affair had zero impact on adjusting his road behaviour afterwards.

Really the system is a complete joke that you can get a 'work licence'. If they did away with them I'd say a remarkable portion of drivers would up their standards quickly.
All these pleas for work licences must waste a considerable amount of court time also.

[neels]

Seems fair enough to me, whenever they manage to catch up with you if the demerits are still current you get the suspension, if they don't find you in time and they expire you get away with it.

If they finally catch up with you 4 years later and you're stupid enough to keep accumulating enough demerits in that time that the suspension still stands, I wouldn't think there's a lot of justification for having a moan about it.

[Akzle]

All these pleas for work licences must waste a considerable amount of court time also.

youre looking at it from the wrong side.
A half dozen lawyers at 200/hr, a judge on half a mil, miscellaneous jewry betwixt,
the game of court is highly profitable!

[Akzle]

oh. And no one here owns a license.
But if you enjoy it in the ass, i suggest you find a black husband.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Two tickets will do it. 135 - 140klicks is worth 55 demerit points - two of those and you will lose your licence .. (I believe I had 60 demerit points when I got caught at 136 klicks .. that took me over the limit ..

It seems wrong when its just at the top of second gear, dunnit?

spoilsports.

I'm a good driver I should be able to go as fast as I like. Plus our roads are just like autobahns.

Speed limits are just suggestions for the weak-willed I reckon.

go as fast as you like.

[HenryDorsetCase]

oh. And no one here owns a license.
But if you enjoy it in the ass, i suggest you find a black husband.

I do enjoy it in the arse, so I will take your suggestion. thank you.

[HenryDorsetCase]

youre looking at it from the wrong side.
A half dozen lawyers at 200/hr, a judge on half a mil, miscellaneous jewry betwixt,
the game of court is highly profitable!

$200 an hour? amateurs!

[SMOKEU]

Here's the link to the list of dumb shit that carries demerits.

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/licence/offe...s/demerit.html

Cool, learned to multi quote. Slow learner I am, Yoda.

Two tickets will do it. 135 - 140klicks is worth 55 demerit points - two of those and you will lose your licence .. (I believe I had 60 demerit points when I got caught at 136 klicks .. that took me over the limit ..

In about 20 months I picked up passing on yellows (35), careless (35) and then speeding (50)... Worst part was, the speeding one was in a really obvious place (Marton region, SH1 long straights), not riding my bike and I didn't realise I was going that quick... Cop was the only one coming towards me, and then I looked at my speed right before he radar'd me ...


Technically, you only have one licence and multiple classes... people get confused so I thought I'd correct. When your licence is suspended/taken/whatever, it affects every class, as there is only one licence.

That's out of it! Back when I had a GTiR with a 108dB exhaust (just a little resonator, and straight pipe the rest of the way) I'd do double the speed limit in front of cops and get it sideways, and the worst I'd get was a minor telling off or the one time that I got an infringement notice for a noisy exhaust. I don't know how some people manage to keep getting ticketed. Maybe it's just luck.