2000 more teachers

[FJRider]

At the rate Cuntlips is spending money he will be raising the tax rates something awful. He will have too there is f-all left to sell!

My bet ... raising the tax "Something Awful" on smokes and booze (first) ... AND fuel tax ... (later)

[Shaun Harris]

Fail, pick yourself up and try harder next time. Worked for me, that and dads right foot size 10 up my arse every now and then.

Nothing like a NO 10 up the arse to remind us wrong from write, or for every action there is a payable reaction. The old methods or parenting worked well, and how the hell making slapping children illegal was ever going to stop out right child abuse I have no idea?

But I do not get to drink the cups of tea the cleaver law makers drink either though

[Winston001]

Within limits class size does not matter, the calibre of the teacher sure as hell does . We can probably all remember the teacher who was an inept waste of space , can any of us remember a class size that prevented us from learning if we wanted to .

Yes there is research which shows class size is not as important as we might think.

Asians have very large classrooms compared to us but their children learn extremely well. Those Asians who make it to NZ universities rate in the A grades which is a shame on our own kids.

[Shaun Harris]

My funniest class room moment. I was sent to catholic school by the basin reserve in wellington by social welfare years back, and one day in religious study Father Toomey was explain the difference between white lies and full on lies, so I asked him


" Father, do you masturbate" By fek you should have seen him turn red and scream at me hahahahahahaha Poor bugger, it only cost me 6 of the best, and was well worth the short term pain.

[James Deuce]

Those Asians who make it to NZ universities rate in the A grades which is a shame on our own kids.

Until they have to apply those skills in the workplace.

[Winston001]

Nobody would argue against 2000 more teachers as a desirable addition to our community.

The thing is, we need to understand the practical implications of such a big step up in education. Teachers need classrooms so right there is a massive extra spend just to provide teaching space. Teachers expect new technology such as interactive white boards and tablets for the children.

Teachers for better or worse also expect teacher-only days, time away at professional development courses, plenty of playground space for activities, and the latest books/resources. As they should.

The problem as I see it is neither the government nor the local community have the deep pockets to suddenly provide the whole package. Finding a teacher is the easy bit - its everything which follows where the real questions arise.

[Berries]

Is that enough to make you vote for labour?

Winston peters looks after the oldies to get there vote so based on him looking out for them/himself, I am seriously consider casting my vote his way BUT BUT BUT Then Labour come out with the 2000+ more teachers for the kids, decisions decisions

Ha ha. You believe them.


Any of them.

[avgas]

Do we need 2000 more teachers?

I mean all you really are doing is taking all the Bach. of Arts Graduates off the dole.

[avgas]

MMP is the biggest costliest Joke I have ever seen NZ preform, how many morons does it take to manage a tiny little Island like NZ

Only 1.
But then we need 30 to disagree with him, 5-10 to kiss his ass, 50 to not care about anything, 20 to not turn up to work and 10 to sleep at work,

[awayatc]

Until they have to apply those skills in the workplace.

Or drive a company car...

[MisterD]

Do we need 2000 more teachers?

I mean all you really are doing is taking all the Bach. of Arts Graduates off the dole.

...and into one of the teaching unions, with a part of their subs going to the (currently so broke they can't afford election hoardings) Labour Party.

So, who is it that needs these teachers?

[Winston001]

Until they have to apply those skills in the workplace.

Seriously Jim? Really?

The Malaysians for example now do the high tech aircraft work for Air New Zealand. They are no slugs - very clever people. We used to do international repairs for many airlines in Chrischurch.

My observation of Asian people is that they are quiet, unobtrusive, work bloody hard, and succeed way beyond ordinary Kiwis. Good on them.

[Banditbandit]

The other real problem with Labours thing is, where the fuk are they going to be able to find 2000 teachers that can speak English?


Yea more forign shit here

Clearly your teachers did not teach you good spelling !!!

But there is a limit on how many students the Government allows to go to tertiary education in New Zealand, and the limit has not been increased for years .. there might be quite a few unemployed teachers - but the limit on students remains an issue.

hang on I will go and ask some teacher's what they think!!!

Oh bugger its one of those 12 weeks a year school holidays

Students might get 12 weeks holiday - teachers don't ... when the students are on leave that's when we do all the other work that piles up while we teach ..

I've heard most of them. They're crap. Mostly because they don't believe in consequences.

Of course teachers believe in consequences .. but you can't show cause and effect in the clear way that you think you can .. we will accept consequences if we are the causes.

Nothing like a NO 10 up the arse to remind us wrong from write, or for every action there is a payable reaction. The old methods or parenting worked well, and how the hell making slapping children illegal was ever going to stop out right child abuse I have no idea?

You do know it was illegal to hit a child BEFORE the Sue Bradford law change??? (or maybe you do not ...)

But I do not get to drink the cups of tea the cleaver law makers drink either though

Cleaver law??? (Or did you suffer from large classes when you were at school?)

[Banditbandit]

Look I'm in two minds about this one - yes, excellent teachers should be able to teacher bigger classes, especially at high school - at primary school I'm not so sure ... I think bigger classes of little kids would be a pain in the arse .. and smaller classes would be better ...

I also know that "you know you're a teacher when someone has critisized your profession - then said 'I wouldn't do your job for anything' ..."

Teachers should be education professionals ... why does everyone else think they can make informed comment on this profession just because once upon a time they were in school?

[Murray]

Students might get 12 weeks holiday - teachers don't ... when the students are on leave that's when we do all the other work that piles up while we teach ..

Thats strange I played soccer in a team with 5 teachers in it (2 went on to become Principals) and they quite openly stated that once they had done the curriculum for the year it was all cruisey and following years they just tweaked it and spent most of the time on the golf course.