2000 more teachers

[Banditbandit]

Thats strange I played soccer in a team with 5 teachers in it (2 went on to become Principals) and they quite openly stated that once they had done the curriculum for the year it was all cruisey and following years they just tweaked it and spent most of the time on the golf course.

How long ago was that?? Were they just pulling your leg???

[oldrider]

Teachers should be education professionals ... why does everyone else think they can make informed comment on this profession just because once upon a time they were in school?

Because it is their right to form that opinion and pass it on --- just as it is the receivers right to take that comment and make judgement of it's value!

It doesn't mean either of their judgements have any value to anyone else or even of the subject in it's self!

I have had 40 years experience in producing and distributing electricity but your opinion is more valid than mine when you receive your bill.

Your total experience with electricity is probably turning little switches off and on and paying your bill ---- your perception is your reality therefore to you it is correct!

The sole reason for production ... is consumption! I.E. Adage: The customer is always right!

[Oscar]

How long ago was that?? Were they just pulling your leg???

Possibly high decile Primary Schools.
My wife was DP at a low decile High School and finally got out last year.
It was killing her (literally, her blood pressure was through the roof), and I begged her to leave.
By most standards her salary was very good, but based on her education (Hons. Degree) it was crap.
It just wasn't worth the stress, abuse and general lack of job satisfaction.

[Shaun Harris]

Yes there is research which shows class size is not as important as we might think.

Asians have very large classrooms compared to us but their children learn extremely well. Those Asians who make it to NZ universities rate in the A grades which is a shame on our own kids.

unfortunately these Asians you speak of are driven so hard as children with schooling and study that they all but become robots.

[brendonjw]

How long ago was that?? Were they just pulling your leg???

Well having lived with 3 teachers for the past 4 years in a flatting situation i can say that its pretty current and they all pretty much agree with it, first year is hard getting the curriculum setup then its pretty crusy, a little rush around report times but other than that its 8 or 8:30-3:30 for them and boy they love rubbing my face in it

[Shaun Harris]

[QUOTE=Banditbandit;1130743769]Clearly your teachers did not teach you good spelling !!!








O They tried too when ever I showed up which was very rear. I went a little wild after my father drowned when I was 9 and social welfare took me over when I turned 13 after only attending school for 1 month of the entire year. I got drunk a lot though back then and had lots of cool wild sex with fellow bad girls

[Banditbandit]

Your total experience with electricity is probably turning little switches off and on and paying your bill ---- your perception is your reality therefore to you it is correct!

I've had a bit more personal experience with electricity - zapped myself a few times. But I hate chasing electrons - you can't see the little fuckers or where they are going. It's the one thing I won't try to fix on my bikes ... unless I really have to (i.e. on the side of the road.)

The sole reason for production ... is consumption! I.E. Adage: The customer is always right!

That's a difficult one. If our students are our customers, do we still have the right to fail them?

[Oscar]

O They tried too when ever I showed up which was very rear. I went a little wild after my father drowned when I was 9 and social welfare took me over when I turned 13 after only attending school for 1 month of the entire year. I got drunk a lot though back then and had lots of cool wild sex with fellow bad girls

If you had gone to school a little bit more often, you would realise that you are not a bad girl (at least you weren't last time I saw you), and you probably meant "..cool wild sex with girls who were as bad as me...".

[James Deuce]

Seriously Jim? Really?

The Malaysians for example now do the high tech aircraft work for Air New Zealand. They are no slugs - very clever people. We used to do international repairs for many airlines in Chrischurch.

My observation of Asian people is that they are quiet, unobtrusive, work bloody hard, and succeed way beyond ordinary Kiwis. Good on them.

Seriously. Of course I can't speak for the airline industry and airline engineering tends to quite different to IT despite using many of the same titles. The candidates I've interviewed have massively pumped their CVs and are unable to answer even the most basic questions about technologies they claim to have advanced qualifications in. Once employed in the workplace they suffer from a lack of initiative, require excessive handholding and constantly repeat the same technical errors over and over. They simply do not understand the importance of inter-personal relationships with their client base as they often hail from a suburb of a massive city that has a bigger population than NZ. A lot of them never adapt to NZ workplace culture or the concept of being on-call for instance. This is not true of every person hailing from that area of the world, however one has to interview 20 or 30 candidates to get someone who will fit an entry level role. We have had people interview for roles, get the job and simply never turn up in the country let alone let us know what is happening. It would be easy to characterise this as a old person racist rant, but it has been my experience of that last five years that NZ is a prime destination, but we work very differently to the rest of the world in terms of expected output per individual, and the expectations of how you will participate in the workplace. The Kiwi habit of suggesting an outcome and expecting it to happen does not fit well with those from cultures who expect to have a step by step plan with detailed instructions placed in front of them.

[The Pastor]

Problem aint with the teachers, its the parents that need a kick up the jaxie

[avgas]

..... The Kiwi habit of suggesting an outcome and expecting it to happen does not fit well with those from cultures who expect to have a step by step plan with detailed instructions placed in front of them.

So they would make great teachers then.
Start class at 8, 9 turn page, 10 turn page.........close book at 3.

(There is only half a truth to this........really depends on the teacher if this is the resulting teaching.......but the curriculum doesn't help)

[avgas]

But I hate chasing electrons - you can't see the little fuckers or where they are going.

Whats in lightning? Or light bulbs? Or a warm element on the stove?

They are easier to spot than you think. Just the same as air is. You just need the right medium.

[avgas]

Problem aint with the teachers, its the parents that need a kick up the jaxie

Half truth. There is a problem with society when a parent does their best to put their kids through school but it unable to help to their potential.

Then there is the other side - the parents who don't give a fuck. Who in all honesty should just lose their kids and their rights to have kids.

But its hard to paint parents with the same brush when the texture of society is so poorly maintained.

[oldrider]

That's a difficult one. If our students are our customers, do we still have the right to fail them?

Yes! The parents are generally your customers so if you failed to fail the student when "required" you would be failing your custmers then!

[Brian d marge]

can i vote to have all politicians executed?
Until then, not fuken worth voting.

bugger off
I want to be in that game ...
Ive already put my flag in the sand

I promise to;

Do nothing
Spend your money
Lose my memory when pressed

BUT what I wont do is cry like a byatch when caught ..

Ill just man up and tell the truth ...I need silk underpants due to the nature of my work and my allergies

Vote for me

Stephen