Cunliffe's constituent Liu?

[Ocean1]

Forget "income inequity", statistically there's bugger all to that fashionable lie even before you consider the wealth redistributed to the "poor".

Your comment that the bottom and middle class have never had it better is a load of shit.

Jayz but my shit smells good. http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/indu...growing-report

"Broadly the report maintains that over a longer period it has not found evidence of a growing gap between the rich and the poor".

And, as above, that's BEFORE you consider benefits only the "poor" are eligible for.



Is it working for you?

[Brian d marge]

The cia would diagree

[mashman]

Jayz but my shit smells good. http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/indu...growing-report

"Broadly the report maintains that over a longer period it has not found evidence of a growing gap between the rich and the poor".

And, as above, that's BEFORE you consider benefits only the "poor" are eligible for.



Is it working for you?

Fed up with the old reports telling tales of woe, there was bound to be another 2 or 3 along the way that would contain a smoothed, as it turns out here, longer term curve to negate the bad press. It's an election year innit?

[Oscar]

Fed up with the old reports telling tales of woe, there was bound to be another 2 or 3 along the way that would contain a smoothed, as it turns out here, longer term curve to negate the bad press. It's an election year innit?

So, as this report doesn't suit, you're gonna ignore it?

Actually, it commented on another favourite of you on the left - the gap between rich and poor:

Broadly the report maintains that over a longer period it has not found evidence of a growing gap between the rich and the poor.

Using the Gini co-efficient, which measures the statistical distribution of income across an economy, the report found that the top decile in New Zealand received 8.0 times that of the bottom decile, the average for the OECD, but more equal than Australia or Canada.

According to the report, the top 1 per cent of New Zealand received 8 per cent of all taxable income in 2010 and 2011, down from 9 per cent in the 1990s.

[mashman]

So, as this report doesn't suit, you're gonna ignore it?

Actually, it commented on another favourite of you on the left - the gap between rich and poor:

Maybe this one is more accurate as it is more recent. Certainly looks like the gap is increasing and there are people suffering because of it. I'm not the one with my head buried in the sand son.

[Oscar]

Maybe this one is more accurate as it is more recent. Certainly looks like the gap is increasing and there are people suffering because of it. I'm not the one with my head buried in the sand son.

I'm not your son.

Do you even know what the definition of "low income" in NZ is?

[mashman]

I'm not your son.

Do you even know what the definition of "low income" in NZ is?

Definition? It's way more than a definition son.

[Oscar]

Definition? It's way more than a definition son.

I'll take that as a "no".

[mashman]

I'll take that as a "no".

It's ok. Some people require a definition to fall back on in order to deny that a thing exists. Kudos for making your stand so publicly.

[Oscar]

It's ok. Some people require a definition to fall back on in order to deny that a thing exists. Kudos for making your stand so publicly.

It helps to actually understand what you're talking about, but I've noticed that this has never stopped you.

[mashman]

It helps to actually understand what you're talking about, but I've noticed that this has never stopped you.

Then try using your brain for a change.

[Brian d marge]

Of top of head , the GINI has stayed constant , more or less around 0.33 after tax from about the early 90s so the report is right in a way the gap isnt widening ,,,its just was lower pre reforms and is no where near norway at about 0.25 and America .44 ( i think ) . NZ was sitting around 0.25 until about 1988 .......
Rome when it fell was around 0.46 and the french were at 0.62 when it all hit the fan

The food price index is the one to watch , off top of head at 210 it goes pear shaped and the average is 190 at the moment ,,,NZ uses a funny sysyem Im not sure how to use it ,,yet

Stephen

[Oscar]

Then try using your brain for a change.

Why bother?
Exchanges at your level (like your replies to my question) are hardly cerebral.

[SPman]

Of top of head , the GINI has stayed constant , more or less around 0.33 after tax from about the early 90s so the report is right in a way the gap isnt widening ,,,its just was lower pre reforms and is no where near norway at about 0.25 and America .44 ( i think ) . NZ was sitting around 0.25 until about 1988 .......
Rome when it fell was around 0.46 and the french were at 0.62 when it all hit the fan

The food price index is the one to watch , off top of head at 210 it goes pear shaped and the average is 190 at the moment ,,,NZ uses a funny sysyem Im not sure how to use it ,,yet

Stephen

In China the gini is around 0.39.....

[Brian d marge]

In China the gini is around 0.39.....

they say china is similar to living in Hungary ...0.39 wouldnt be far off .....

Stephen