Haircut boy gets $24k costs

**TheDemonLord** · 11th July 2014, 15:34

Originally Posted by MVnut

Changes nothing, basically he was running close to the wire for some time, the rule was still there, even though now it is deemed to be poorly worded.

Running Close to the wire doesn't equal exceeding it - unless of course you would be happy to get a speeding ticket for doing 95 in a 100 zone?

IMO the Bill serves as a valuable lesson to the school - that tyrannically enforcing and following arbitrary rules is a very slippery slope indeed.

I personally 100% support the kid - not only because I have long hair and have been through similar issues - but also because challenging BS rules and using ones brain IMO is a very important lesson we all should learn (but very few apparently do....)

**Voltaire** · 11th July 2014, 15:44

What are the rules for judges and long hair....

They are nearly as out of touch as Saint John's College....

oddly the bloke they were named after also had long hair.

**James Deuce** · 11th July 2014, 16:14

Originally Posted by Trade_nancy

Tell that to the defense force if you want a job there....or my workplace..girlie..
Rules are not necessarily about the state or appearance of the person as defined by said rules - rather a means of instilling a willingness to conform and follow directions. A means of making a yob disciplined. Otherwise - fuck off and live outside of the society you are rocking the boat of - fuck off to the boonies and live like a hermit under a rock.
Wonder how he'll react to law enforcement telling him he has to wear a seat belt in his car? Or will he not want a crash helmet on a bike? Bet he'd not wear hi-viz...oops.

It's school. He's not operating a lathe or an M134. It's a non-issue that's cost tax-payer money when it should have been resolved within the school system.

Who are you calling girlie? If you're a "trade_nancy" I rather suspect you're calling the kettle black, pot.

An ad hominem attack usually means you've conceded the point and your overreacting angrily to hide the sneaking suspicion that there is more truth in my position than your own. Nothing bad will happen if a schoolboy ties his hair up. I promise. Something bad happened because a reactionary pillock with a Hitler complex pushed it into court. Whihc may or may not have been his own Dad.

**toycollector10** · 11th July 2014, 16:16

Despite all the rights and wrongs of the situation he won but ultimately he will lose.
"So what was you name again? Battison, Lucan Battison. We'll be in touch about the job interview"
Who would employ a litigious person with inflated, exaggerated ideas about his rights and place in society? An employer would just be buying a whole lot of trouble by putting him on the payroll and now every employer in NZ has got a ring around his name.

I was involved with this crap myself (hair off the collar) in 1970 but quickly realised it was just conceit. I joined the RNZAF in '72 and got me a real man cut and it didn't bother me at all.

**Akzle** · 11th July 2014, 16:23

Originally Posted by MVnut

Discipline.....is that even still in the dictionary?

no. Women had it replaced with 'not achieved compliance'

of course the decision can be appealed.
The real offense is that the lawerjews on both sides are smiling as they sign for their timeshare yachts...

**Akzle** · 11th July 2014, 16:27

Originally Posted by neels

If the headmaster changed the school rules when he started and then enforced the new rule a month later then fair enough, different if the rule already existed when he enrolled at the school but just hadn't been enforced.

no. See, it not being enforced sets a (jew term) common law precedent.

**Trade_nancy** · 11th July 2014, 16:43

Originally Posted by James Deuce

It's school. He's not operating a lathe or an M134. It's a non-issue that's cost tax-payer money when it should have been resolved within the school system.

Q.
Who are you calling girlie? If you're a "trade_nancy" I rather suspect you're calling the kettle black, pot.
A. Him and his dad.

An ad hominem attack usually means you've conceded the point and your overreacting angrily to hide the sneaking suspicion that there is more truth in my position than your own.
A. Irrelevant based on answer to Q1.

Nothing bad will happen if a schoolboy ties his hair up. I promise.
A. OK. Unless he gets it caught in the overhead revolving dishwasher ringers...and I guess you like long hair. I did too.

Something bad happened because a reactionary pillock with a Hitler complex pushed it into court. Whihc may or may not have been his own Dad.

A. Agreed. See I am not a hominem....longhair.

**oldrider** · 11th July 2014, 17:08

Originally Posted by sil3nt

He had been at the school for some time and it was never an issue. The headmaster had been at the school only a month and decided his haircut was unacceptable. We know he has had long hair for a while because he was in the news January 2013. So unless I missed the part where the kid had just enrolled it is nothing like what neels has said.

True, it is the new headmaster that should be looking for a new job, he was completely out of line and obviously promoted beyond his competence level!

It should never have happened ... the school board should never have appointed him ... bet they whish they hadn't now!

Custom and practice had been well established on a subjective school rule but that new headmaster showed them just who was boss!

. Didn't he? 24k later!

**buggerit** · 11th July 2014, 17:32

Originally Posted by James Deuce

It's school. He's not operating a lathe or an M134. It's a non-issue that's cost tax-payer money when it should have been resolved within the school system.

Who are you calling girlie? If you're a "trade_nancy" I rather suspect you're calling the kettle black, pot.

An ad hominem attack usually means you've conceded the point and your overreacting angrily to hide the sneaking suspicion that there is more truth in my position than your own. Nothing bad will happen if a schoolboy ties his hair up. I promise. Something bad happened because a reactionary pillock with a Hitler complex pushed it into court. Whihc may or may not have been his own Dad.

News flash: schools have lathes, unfortunately alot sit unused because with the lack of disipline at school these days, it is to hard health
and safety wise so everyone misses out.

**Tazz** · 11th July 2014, 19:29

Originally Posted by James Deuce

It's a non-issue inflated into a battle of egos by a school who found it more important to make a principled stand about a student ever so slightly bending rules than using common sense. Serves us right for thinking Authority = 100% right. Society will not collapse if a boy ties his hair up.

Yep, and then once they've stamped all the 'creative thinking' and individuality out of him at high school he'll get the KB sheeples choice award and then a few years at uni trying to claw some of it back (depending on field).

You'd think a school of all places would have enough intelligence between the decision makers to not let things progress this far over a dumb rule that is no longer socially relevant, but the new guy is obviously a power tripping retard who I hope is sacked and never put in a leadership role again.

**Tazz** · 11th July 2014, 19:33

Originally Posted by buggerit

News flash: schools have lathes, unfortunately alot sit unused because with the lack of disipline at school these days, it is to hard health
and safety wise so everyone misses out.

Maybe if there weren't so many stupid rules and kids minds were kept active rather than being taught to be drones they'd be a bit more 'disciplined'? There are always going to be 'bad apples' but why hold back other kids because of them. Let them lose a hand or two.

How is that primary school that relaxed it's rules going again...?

Actually, just thinking about it some of the most 'smart arse' kids at school were the most creative with their hands as far as wood and metal work went. Others were just geniuses all over but liked to tell authority to fuck off and leave them be. Guess they were failures though because they didn't respect some pillock who was in the wrong career pushing them around.

**Akzle** · 11th July 2014, 20:15

Originally Posted by Tazz

Maybe if there weren't so many stupid rules and kids minds were kept active rather than being taught to be drones they'd be a bit more 'disciplined'? There are always going to be 'bad apples' but why hold back other kids because of them. Let them lose a hand or two.

How is that primary school that relaxed it's rules going again...?

Actually, just thinking about it some of the most 'smart arse' kids at school were the most creative with their hands as far as wood and metal work went. Guess they were failures though because they didn't respect some pillock who was in the wrong career pushing them around.

i could weld better than my shop teacher...
Roll a fuken joint better than him too.
But im a fucking failure at society.
Oh. And i have long hair.
Fuck yourself, old white prats.

**MVnut** · 11th July 2014, 20:15

Originally Posted by James Deuce

it should have been resolved within the school system.
Something bad happened because a reactionary pillock with a Hitler complex pushed it into court. Whihc may or may not have been his own Dad.

Now that is a sensible comment. While I don't agree 100% with the School, the boy (who will now be marked for life via the internet) should simply have accepted that while at that school, the headmaster is the law (within reason) even if only in the job for a month. When Auckland Grammar changed Heads (from W. Copper to D.J. Graham) we thought we were in for easy street.(Wrong haha)....if this kid was at AGS back then and caused a $$$$$ issue so we didn't get rugby balls or whatever, he would have been scragged every lunchtime for a couple of terms and caned after lunch every day for having school uniform in disarray......a perfect punishment in my mind, sometimes the old ways work best

**Swoop** · 11th July 2014, 20:19

Originally Posted by Bikemad

shithot......now the precedent has been set.....i'm gonna sue my employer cause company rules state i must wear a poofy blue shirt to work and i don't look good in blue...........

Excellent! There goes the faggoty Hi-Vis jackets of invisibility!

Originally Posted by Voltaire

What are the rules for judges and long hair....

The queer-as-fuck look is entirely optional for the judiciary. Has been for ages.