Haircut boy gets $24k costs

[Berries]

Don't know if you noticed but Lucan's father had dreads. While the new broom Head was a jerk, it was the dreadlocked dad who brought in the lawyers.
Coiffure could be disproportionately important to him. More important than hirsute hygiene anyway?

it did not escape my attention that mother and father liked the attention and perhaps had a bit of spare time on their hands. Most lads that age would either conform and get on with it until they can leave school and express themselves freely or be happy to get expelled and give the headmaster the finger. To actually fight the rules you signed up to sounds ridiculous to me, which is why I wouldn't employ him. I think dear old daddy was behind the whole thing which saddens me because it is a gross generalisation about loafers with dreadlocks.

[TheDemonLord]

it did not escape my attention that mother and father liked the attention and perhaps had a bit of spare time on their hands. Most lads that age would either conform and get on with it until they can leave school and express themselves freely or be happy to get expelled and give the headmaster the finger. To actually fight the rules you signed up to sounds ridiculous to me, which is why I wouldn't employ him. I think dear old daddy was behind the whole thing which saddens me because it is a gross generalisation about loafers with dreadlocks.

So then, say a new police Chief came into power and decided without the Law being changed that they were going to ticket people for going over the suggested speed for marked corners.

Would you challenge this change? If the answer is yes then you are in the exact same situation that Lucan was - afterall, you can choose to hand in your licence or move to another country.

I will concede to you if you would hold yourself to the same standards that you set for Lucan - that were the above scenario to occur, you would move country or revoke your licence or conform to the Police's decision (even though it isn't backed up by the Law)

However I suspect in my Scenerio you would either ignore the Police changes, or challenge them as unlawful.

[neels]

So then, say a new police Chief came into power and decided without the Law being changed that they were going to ticket people for going over the suggested speed for marked corners.

Something like the police applying a 4kmh tolerance over holiday weekends, where previously they have allowed a 10kmh tolerance?

Custom and practice has been mentioned a few times as justification for challenging enforcement the school rules, on that logic it would be a valid defence to a speeding ticket for 108kmh.

In practice I think the answer would be that the law is the law, and we are choosing to enforce it even though we haven't previously, suck it up and pay the fine.

[TheDemonLord]

Something like the police applying a 4kmh tolerance over holiday weekends, where previously they have allowed a 10kmh tolerance?

Custom and practice has been mentioned a few times as justification for challenging enforcement the school rules, on that logic it would be a valid defence to a speeding ticket for 108kmh.

In practice I think the answer would be that the law is the law, and we are choosing to enforce it even though we haven't previously, suck it up and pay the fine.

Correct about the 4 Kph tolerance - how many of you haven't protested in some way shape or form about this?

however the Law for Speeding is very clear - everything over 100 kph is speeding, the police choosing not to enforce is a slightly different scenario. In Lucans case he wore his hair in a way that satisfied the rule (hair was not in his eyes and was off his collar) which is why I wrote my scenario - one can ride around a 55 kph posted corner in a 100 kph zone faster than 55 kph but without going over 100 kph....

[PrincessBandit]

As a teacher (high school) I see "rules" being walked over all the time. Many of them are, in my opinion, comparatively trivial and almost impossible to enforce en masse.

My rule of thumb is the same as when my kids were growing up - as few rules as possible, but those few were non-negotiable and NOT based on some random whimsy.

[TheDemonLord]

As a teacher (high school) I see "rules" being walked over all the time. Many of them are, in my opinion, comparatively trivial and almost impossible to enforce en masse.

My rule of thumb is the same as when my kids were growing up - as few rules as possible, but those few were non-negotiable and NOT based on some random whimsy.

This.

Completely this.

[Banditbandit]

As a teacher (high school) I see "rules" being walked over all the time. Many of them are, in my opinion, comparatively trivial and almost impossible to enforce en masse.

My rule of thumb is the same as when my kids were growing up - as few rules as possible, but those few were non-negotiable and NOT based on some random whimsy.

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I can't believe that after 50 years hair length is still an issue in schools .. and I can't believe that KBers have wasted nine pages (so far)on this bullshit discussion.

[HenryDorsetCase]

+1 (and 10 chars)

I can't believe that after 50 years hair length is still an issue in schools .. and I can't believe that KBers have wasted nine pages (so far)on this bullshit discussion.

those of us that had aawful school experiences are using it to give the school a kicking, a message of which I approve.

[swbarnett]

Something like the police applying a 4kmh tolerance over holiday weekends, where previously they have allowed a 10kmh tolerance?

Wrong. A lowering of the tolerance is backed up by law. Enforcement of suggested corner speeds as limits is not.

[oldrider]

+1 (and 10 chars)

I can't believe that after 50 years hair length is still an issue in schools .. and I can't believe that KBers have wasted nine pages (so far)on this bullshit discussion.

It's KB it's trivia and we like to live a little lightly now and then ... kinda like reading comics used to be back in the day!

[HenryDorsetCase]

It's KB it's trivia and we like to live a little lightly now and then ... kinda like reading comics used to be back in the day!

They're graphic novels now, Grandad. ;-)

[oldrider]

those of us that had aawful school experiences are using it to give the school a kicking, a message of which I approve.

Hmmmm, I always felt that I was the one in charge at school, they had the rules and the cane but I decided when and how! Impertinent twits!

[Winston001]

+1 (and 10 chars)

I can't believe that after 50 years hair length is still an issue in schools .. and I can't believe that KBers have wasted nine pages (so far)on this bullshit discussion.

I think we all agree with you but its fun.

So then, say a new police Chief came into power and decided without the Law being changed that they were going to ticket people for going over the suggested speed for marked corners.

Would you challenge this change? If the answer is yes then you are in the exact same situation that Lucan was - afterall, you can choose to hand in your licence or move to another country.

1. The comparison doesn't work because there is not a parallel system of roads with less restrictions. There are however other schools.

2. Speed signs on corners are advisory, not lawful limits. However there is no difficulty in finding driving offences when those limits are exceeded: careless use, driving at a dangerous speed, reckless driving, driving without reasonable consideration for other road-users, failing to keep left (if cross centre line), driving without regard to the road conditions etc etc. Bread and butter for road traffic enforcement.

[swbarnett]

there is not a parallel system of roads with less restrictions.

I think you'll find that there are many on the face of this planet.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I think you'll find that there are many on the face of this planet.

That explains a lot: you're a Stonecutter!

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