Sitting on your Learners or Restricted? Govt to change licensing to make more $$$

**Drew** · 8th August 2014, 10:06

Originally Posted by awayatc

Ok. You win , the only good drivers/ riders are the ones without a licence...

on same logic level :

I always go through red traffic lights,
coz lots of people get in accidents going through green lights....

Smoking is not bad for you...
coz lots of people get lungcancer, yet never smoked....

start smoking again,
coz I am putting on weight since I stopped

Not at all. It is my view that the licenses held are nothing more than a way of identifying drivers, rather than a qualification for doing it.

Thus, I have never been overly concerned about upgrading mine to a full endorsement for the bike.

I will now because I'll lose it all together if I don't, and for no other reason really.

**GTRMAN** · 8th August 2014, 10:52

When Drew pulls his finger out he will be sitting a CBTA assessment.....

**Ulsterkiwi** · 8th August 2014, 11:28

I am curious, some of the comments here are from folks who seem to be indicating they need to get an unendorsed class 6 licence but the bikes listed in their details are not of a class they are supposedly licenced to be riding on the public roads. I am wondering how these people might.......

1. get to test ride a bike at a dealer before purchase if they cannot prove being licenced to ride said bike. (or with a private seller for that matter)
2. get insurance to ride said bike on the public roads
3. do not get pinged by Mr Popo for being in breach of licence conditions

Or am I missing something?

Akzle, please do not feel the need to reply, I am well aware of your position on licencing, insurance and all other jewry which is out to make your life miserable.

**unstuck** · 8th August 2014, 11:31

Originally Posted by Ulsterkiwi

Or am I missing something?

.

Yep.

**Ulsterkiwi** · 8th August 2014, 11:37

Originally Posted by unstuck

Yep.

Dont mistake my question for indignation, I have passed my CBTA full assessment and am waiting for December which is when my 12months on 6R is completed to get my unendorsed 6. What dealer will let me ride a non-LAMS bike, what insurance company will cover me to do so and where does it say the constabulary wont take a dim view of it all while they take my licence?

so go on then, tell me........is it simply I worry to much about the law?

**release_the_bees** · 8th August 2014, 11:43

Might have to book my car restricted test some time soon then. I passed my learner test in 1998, then bought a scooter and then progressed to bikes. I am still on the car learners as I've never really owned a car for long enough to bother going through the license system. The only time I drive the car is with my partner who has her full licence anyway so up until now having a learner licence has never been an issue.

**unstuck** · 8th August 2014, 12:13

Originally Posted by Ulsterkiwi

is it simply I worry to much about the law?

Do you? I would have no idea, seeing as I have never met you.
I always bought my bikes privately. I insure nothing I own(apart from my house), but that does not mean I shirk personal responsibility, in other words, if I fuck someone elses shit up, I pay.
I have only been caught on my bike once in 35+yrs of riding,that was a couple of years ago and I made the decision not to ride on the road until I do have a license, and I stick to that mostly. Unless I am feeling rebellious.
Cannot answer for anyone else.

**Drew** · 8th August 2014, 12:17

Originally Posted by Ulsterkiwi

I am curious, some of the comments here are from folks who seem to be indicating they need to get an unendorsed class 6 licence but the bikes listed in their details are not of a class they are supposedly licenced to be riding on the public roads. I am wondering how these people might.......

1. get to test ride a bike at a dealer before purchase if they cannot prove being licenced to ride said bike. (or with a private seller for that matter)
2. get insurance to ride said bike on the public roads
3. do not get pinged by Mr Popo for being in breach of licence conditions

Or am I missing something?

Akzle, please do not feel the need to reply, I am well aware of your position on licencing, insurance and all other jewry which is out to make your life miserable.

I don't test ride shop bikes, but mates bikes I used to. Chucked one away though so I don't do that anymore. But ya don't need a license to buy a bike though.

**Ulsterkiwi** · 8th August 2014, 12:28

Originally Posted by unstuck

Do you? I would have no idea, seeing as I have never met you.

appreciate you not presuming

yes, maybe I do.

Originally Posted by unstuck

I always bought my bikes privately. I insure nothing I own(apart from my house), but that does not mean I shirk personal responsibility, in other words, if I fuck someone elses shit up, I pay.
I have only been caught on my bike once in 35+yrs of riding,that was a couple of years ago and I made the decision not to ride on the road until I do have a license, and I stick to that mostly. Unless I am feeling rebellious.
Cannot answer for anyone else.

fair enough, you make a decision and take responsibility for any consequences, I respect that.

Originally Posted by Drew

I don't test ride shop bikes, but mates bikes I used to. Chucked one away though so I don't do that anymore. But ya don't need a license to buy a bike though.

true and again you make your own decisions, I have no issue with that, was just curious how others might deal to what I perceive as reasons not to do these things. Each to their own I guess!