RIP Robin Williams

[unstuck]

I agree with this Mans statement fully and apologise for sending red rep when it was meant to be GREEN.
Robin your movies and portrayals had all of my family in tears of joy and on occasion pain but always we felt the love.You are already missed.

He was a great talent, for sure. Depression unfortunately does not recognize talent, wealth, success........... The only way forward is to be brave enough to TALK, and if it feels like you have not been heard, find someone else to talk to. For those that have never felt the deep onset of depression, you can help by just listening without judgement to whoever is reaching out to you. If you cannot do that, at least have the honesty to let the person know, that way they can find someone else to listen.

The only way through this kind of thing, is from others being there for each other.

[AllanB]

Sad anyone feels the need to go in that manner. But as a comedian he annoyed me ........

[Dave h]

From the movie Good Will Hunting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM-gZintWDc

[mossy1200]

Sad Stuff.

Sending a tweet as a final goodbye must have caused a massive amount of stress. Knowing that when it was sent he was alive and not being able to prevent it. That's got to be the worst thing you could do to someone.

[Katman]

Strange. Of all possible responses, yours remains entirely in-character.

Really? So sort of like your comment the other day about Minnie Elder then?

[Geeen]

I just hope that people will start to see depression for what it is, and it will make some people seek help. Us men need to stop being so bloody minded about this killer. Talking about your feelings does not make you a weak person, it may just save a life. There is a way through it if you find the right people to support you.

Good post, only issue I have with it is it's not a fear of weakness that stops people talking. Its the belief they aren't worth the effort to help.

[oneofsix]

Good post, only issue I have with it is it's not a fear of weakness that stops people talking. Its the belief they aren't worth the effort to help.

+1, they sink inside themselves but in the male context we often subscribe this to a fear of looking weak when actually it is about not feeling worthy of anyone's help. Woman that are good at talking about their feeling still suffer from it, I have a friend in the category.

So sad that Robin felt he had to make this choice.

[unstuck]

Good post, only issue I have with it is it's not a fear of weakness that stops people talking. Its the belief they aren't worth the effort to help.

Agreed. Unworthiness in and of itself can cause feelings of depression to develop. Whatever the reason, talking about it to someone you trust is the first step in getting a handle on it.

[Geeen]

Agreed. Unworthiness in and of itself can cause feelings of depression to develop. Whatever the reason, talking about it to someone you trust is the first step in getting a handle on it.

Agreed, the biggest stick I have to keep the dogs away is my awesometastic wife. Everytime I have gone to health professionals all its been is "take these drugs" and when I say I would rather find whats causing it and not hide behind drugs "sorry, we cant help you."

[Shaun Harris]

Good post, only issue I have with it is it's not a fear of weakness that stops people talking. Its the belief they aren't worth the effort to help.

I have heard what you said many a time by a friend who needed help for a long time, finally they gave into there own beliefe and asked for help and now are trully rockin along

[Laava]

Agreed, the biggest stick I have to keep the dogs away is my awesometastic wife. Everytime I have gone to health professionals all its been is "take these drugs" and when I say I would rather find whats causing it and not hide behind drugs "sorry, we cant help you."

Sadly, you can,t really be surprised by that? I have several friends and family members dealing with depression and they are all so totally different that it would be dangerous to make a prognosis for each of them. One guy in particular, his depression is caused by coming down off the drugs he believes are his crutch. P in this case. A close family member has learnt to recognise the signs of imminent crash and can get scripted to level things off. As Big Dog called it, the big black dog is always lurking. Glad you have an awesome wife to help you thru.

[Big Dog]

Agreed, the biggest stick I have to keep the dogs away is my awesometastic wife. Everytime I have gone to health professionals all its been is "take these drugs" and when I say I would rather find whats causing it and not hide behind drugs "sorry, we cant help you."

EOD I know why. Can't fix it. Can't take drugs for it. Brain damage can't be fixed.

I find riding my bike regular and often helps, spending quality time with the family helps lots of things help. Making time to help others helps. Doing things that the completion is the only reward such as shaving with a straight razor or polishing shoes helps. Learning helps.
Each in their own way.
The only one that always helps is music.

Ain't no fix.

Those who matter notice and send me out for a ride, to go play games or just to do something that is just for the sake of it.

If you see someone is not themselves talk to them about anything. Listen to what they say. Let them know they are important and they matter. Sometimes all it takes.

[Big Dog]

Sadly, you can,t really be surprised by that? I have several friends and family members dealing with depression and they are all so totally different that it would be dangerous to make a prognosis for each of them. One guy in particular, his depression is caused by coming down off the drugs he believes are his crutch. P in this case. A close family member has learnt to recognise the signs of imminent crash and can get scripted to level things off. As Big Dog called it, the big black dog is always lurking. Glad you have an awesome wife to help you thru.

The big black dog is a Winstone Churchill reference. He wrote about his relationship with depression. Not that there was any such thing at the time.

Sometimes you walk the big black dog. Sometimes the big black do walks you.
Sometimes you know the big black dog is there other times you have not seen then big black dog in a long time. But don't think he is gone.

[Big Dog]

Can't find the article, but found this sobering quote:
"I don't like standing near the edge of a platform when an express train is passing through. I like to stand right back and if possible get a pillar between me and the train. I don't like to stand by the side of a ship and look down into the water. A second's action would end everything. A few drops of desperation." - Winston Churchill (1874-1965)

I haven't seen it yet but this looked pertinent. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/good...epression.html

And back to the man himself.
The thing that always impressed me about Robin Williams was the chameleon like way that the affable goofy man became whoever he needed to be in that moment and without reservation.

“You're only given a spark of madness. You musn't lose it.”


― Robin Williams

[Swoop]

Really? So sort of like your comment the other day about Minnie Elder then?

Your bringing Billy Connelly into the topic was rather odd under the circumstances.
My Minnie statement was without bias one way or another. She has had troubled times and is on the edge, as simple as that. I wish her no ill will & hope that she gets support.