Elections are coming up. What are we thinking?

[oldrider]

Ooh I am so disappointed with that comment.
You had been on a roll prior to this. Unable to give you more rep post after post.
You seem to overlook the fact that this govt. has the worst finacial record in the history of this country.
Bill English was explaining to Parliament in I think their last session that this was because of the efforts of the previous Labour govt. and it had taken them 6 years to sort it out.
Ignoring his comment after the first two years that Cullen had done a "pretty good job".
I can't imagine anything so ridiculous as his comment that the govt. was borrowing more money than they needed because it was at such good interest rates.
Is this the reason they have been adopting all those IMF policy requirements? eg reducing Public Service, opening up conservation land for mining etc.
I wonder how much of our asset sales proceeds went to pay the interest on borrowings we didn't need.

Do you really think that any change will bring any "real" difference! ... They, with there lack of familiarity in power will turn to the government departments for help!

All we will get is more of the same only more heavily involving rampant civil servants FFS! .... Better another term of these pratts IMHO!

[MisterD]

[Added 19 May 2009]

After Key presented the idea at the jobs summit then?

[SPman]

Who's estimate?

Paul Graig Roberts - economist and former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal, John Williams, http://www.shadowstats.com/, Paul Krugman, Robert Reich, Greg Palast (former Forensic economist for the IMF), and several US inhabitants I correspond with, scattered across the country who can see what is actually going on and find it impossible to reconcile what they're told, with what they see and have to deal with........among others..

[mashman]

Paul Graig Roberts - economist and former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury for Economic Policy and associate editor of the Wall Street Journal, John Williams, http://www.shadowstats.com/, Paul Krugman, Robert Reich, Greg Palast (former Forensic economist for the IMF), and several US inhabitants I correspond with, scattered across the country who can see what is actually going on and find it impossible to reconcile what they're told, with what they see and have to deal with........among others..

It always cracks me up how they measure the unemployment figures:

"The HLFS is a nationwide, quarterly survey and is the official measure of employment and unemployment in New Zealand. It has been providing the only comprehensive and ongoing picture of the labour force since it began in October 1985."

"HLFS data is collected from a sample survey, which is designed to represent the country as a whole. There are about 15,000 households in the sample, which corresponds to roughly 30,000 people, from both rural and urban localities. Households and household members are interviewed every three months and asked about their activities during a particular reference week. From the information provided, Statistics NZ can estimate the official unemployment rate and other labour market indicators."

So we get the official figures by extrapolating the activity of 0.01% of the work aged population... PRICELESS.

[SPman]

The Real Unemployment Rate: In 20% Of American Families, Everyone Is Unemployed

According to shocking new numbers that were just released by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, 20 percent of American families do not have a single person that is working. So when someone tries to tell you that the unemployment rate in the United States is about 7 percent, you should just laugh..................

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-0...one-unemployed

What is the real unemployment rate in....the UK, NZ, etc. Probably higher than the official figures. Youth unemployment in NZ is already around 22% +.......and it's a similar picture overseas, with youth unemployment in places like Greece, Spain, Italy, etc, reaching as high as 75%

[Ocean1]

Paul Graig Roberts

So he's using different sources, criteria and units to the data representing the other nations in that group.

Fair enough. But questioning the veracity of data from a single nation doesn't invalidate the evidence from the full set that demonstrates the number of millionaires in a country is in fact directly related to high employment. Quite the opposite to what the original theory proposed.

The problem lies in biased and often-manipulated government reporting.

So, you have to ask: what's Mr Paul Graig Roberts' motivation for collecting and presenting data in the particular way that he has?

[oldrider]

Niki Harger (sp) ... what a fizzer ... Campbell well and truely forwarned all ready and acting coy and surprised ... gimme a break!

[Brian d marge]

China has a few millionares

[Ocean1]

China has a few millionares

China has a lot of millionaires.

And fuck all unemployment.

[puddytat]

Im thinking fuck the U.S......Im fucking so over 'em meddling everywhere & they aint finished with us yet.

http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2014/08/13...nst-democracy/


meddle, meddle, meddle





As opposed to say....Nicky Hagar who deserves a medal.
http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2014/08/13...l-environment/




Nicky Hager deserves a medal.

[yokel]

China has a lot of millionaires.

And fuck all unemployment.

I dont think being unemployed would be a good option in China?

we live off the sweat of other peoples brow, it's going to catch up with us sooner or later

[Mr Revhead]

Nicky Hagar deserves a fucking bullet. And so does anyone who thinks he tells nothing but the truth.


My wish for the election is that people vote with a view to the long term good of the country. Not the short term view to what they perceived as good for them.
Obviously Labour are hoping people think only of themselves in the near future with all their vote bribing "policies"
Remember NZ, a vote for Labour is a vote for That cunliffee clown, The Maniac.com fiasco/criminal and the Green Taliban. Don't forget that the green taliban would like to do away with our motorcycles!

[puddytat]

Nicky Hagar deserves a fucking bullet. And so does anyone who thinks he tells nothing but the truth.


whale oil blah blah blay wank fest!

He has not been disproved yet & yet to lose in court.

Pistols at dawn?

[mada]

Nicky Hagar deserves a fucking bullet. And so does anyone who thinks he tells nothing but the truth.


My wish for the election is that people vote with a view to the long term good of the country. Not the short term view to what they perceived as good for them.
Obviously Labour are hoping people think only of themselves in the near future with all their vote bribing "policies"
Remember NZ, a vote for Labour is a vote for That cunliffee clown, The Maniac.com fiasco/criminal and the Green Taliban. Don't forget that the green taliban would like to do away with our motorcycles!

Woah someones angry...

Hope you don't have a firearms licence....

[avgas]

The Real Unemployment Rate: In 20% Of American Families, Everyone Is Unemployed

According to shocking new numbers that were just released by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, 20 percent of American families do not have a single person that is working. So when someone tries to tell you that the unemployment rate in the United States is about 7 percent, you should just laugh..................

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-0...one-unemployed

What is the real unemployment rate in....the UK, NZ, etc. Probably higher than the official figures. Youth unemployment in NZ is already around 22% +.......and it's a similar picture overseas, with youth unemployment in places like Greece, Spain, Italy, etc, reaching as high as 75%

Actually its worse than that in terms of what the figures don't tell you.

Most people here have been in their jobs for a long time (unlike NZ an Aus - where 2-3 years is average), thus on the flip side - getting into a new job takes a significant length of time.

When I was applying for jobs - (skilled) people I talked to hand been unemployed for years! not months but years. So of that 7% who are unemployed - their eta to finding a new job is around 1-2 years.

What this means is that if you take into consideration of the average number of people who lose their jobs and need to find new ones is closer to 20-30%. Thankfully at any point in time this figure is around 7%.
However if you took the results of people who lost their jobs since 2013 you would see a figure much closer to 20%. If you took the figure of people who looked for work since 2013 - the figure would be closer to 30-40%.

Shocking when you consider the average period in a job here is 5-10 years.