Cunt Key

[mashman]

you could call it "The Delusional Self Righteous Party"
Or the "All Day To Waste Arguing On The Internet" party

I could, but the left and right already have the IP, TM and Copyright according to the internet.
Isn't that what the internet's for?

[Oscar]

you could call it "The Delusional Self Righteous Party"
Or the "All Day To Waste Arguing On The Internet" party

How about "The I just know better" Party?
Or the "Fucked in the scone raving looney on the interweb party" (actually that's probably too close to Internet Mana)?

[MisterD]

Did you ask them all?

Any actual logical arguments against those hypotheses? You're right, none of us would expect that from you.

[mashman]

Any actual logical arguments against those hypotheses? You're right, none of us would expect that from you.

From the man that says an R.B.E. can't work because people won't like it? Not because they know about it, but that once they do know about it they won't like it?

There is NO logical argument for voting for the lesser of 2 evils, just as there is no logic in voting for a party on the basis that you'd never vote for another. So whilst I agree with large chunks of your post, in principle, I see it as inherently naive of a person to vote for a party that has the bare minimum of policy detail on display... and given that there isn't a NO CONFIDENCE option on the ballot, I guess they simply don't want to know or present options to ALL voters. Fuckin pathetic given that the very same politicians claim to be my representative without giving me the option of voting for what I believe. Where's the logic in that?

[SPman]

(they only have the ability to govern alone because of the wasted vote that went to the CCCP),

I thought the Soviet Union ceased to exist in 1991..........and who'd vote for them.

[sidecar bob]

I could, but the left and right already have the IP, TM and Copyright according to the internet.
Isn't that what the internet's for?

Im sure that the strength of this proposed party, will be its leader's ability to accept the viewpoints of others that dont align exactly with his own, to also be valid.

[mashman]

Im sure that the strength of this proposed party, will be its leader's ability to accept the viewpoints of others that dont align exactly with his own, to also be valid.

Typical 2 dimensional fuckwit. The requirement of a leader is archaic and would only be uttered by those who wish to be led. Sorry to disappoint, but that's you as an R.B.E. does not require A leader. irony of all ironies. Look son, I grew up thinking almost exactly the same as you and have used the arguments that spew from your cockhole in the days when I was a naive fucktard. In english, that means I've changed my viewpoints, primarily because the one's that I used to use, and you currently use, are moronic.

Sorry to be the bearer of such bad news... or should I have lied to you and led you around by the nose for a bit?

[Banditbandit]

... or should I have lied to you and led you around by the nose for a bit?

That one .. it makes for a better spectator sport ..

[sidecar bob]

Typical 2 dimensional fuckwit. The requirement of a leader is archaic and would only be uttered by those who wish to be led. Sorry to disappoint, but that's you as an R.B.E. does not require A leader. irony of all ironies. Look son, I grew up thinking almost exactly the same as you and have used the arguments that spew from your cockhole in the days when I was a naive fucktard. In english, that means I've changed my viewpoints, primarily because the one's that I used to use, and you currently use, are moronic.

Sorry to be the bearer of such bad news... or should I have lied to you and led you around by the nose for a bit?

Awesome rant bro!! Crack on with setting this party up, It should make for some fantastic spectator sport. You may be able to out do the Kim & Hone show.

[avgas]

I hope she knew which was which ...

I used to know the answer to that question. Now.......I wonder if we don't just have 2 shades of purple.

[Oscar]

Sorry to be the bearer of such bad news... or should I have lied to you and led you around by the nose for a bit?

For someone to lie, they would need to actually know what the truth was.

[mashman]

That one .. it makes for a better spectator sport ..

It does... but until they plop the contract under my nose with me having the major share of the media rights, fuck 'em, I'll do eet my own way .

Awesome rant bro!! Crack on with setting this party up, It should make for some fantastic spectator sport. You may be able to out do the Kim & Hone show.

I've got to find funding first, eh, eh, eh. I can guarantee the odd f-bomb and lots of coughing of the word bullshit. No point going into it without having confidence that the electorate will see the sense in what will eventually be presented and then vote it into existence. It's an inevitability and a long life. I feel for Hone, I really do. Not afraid to call a spade a spade and likely a focus on the people he believes he can help. Politics is a rough game when it's people v's the economy, I know this .

But first, I need to generate a revenue stream. Ironically, an R.B.E. wouldn't require such a thing as a revenue stream, coz a good idea is a good idea and should see the light of day... not be left on the drawing board due to budget constraint. Sigh, some day you kids'll get it

For someone to lie, they would need to actually know what the truth was.

Nah, public perception trumps that.

[MisterD]

From the man that says an R.B.E. can't work because people won't like it? Not because they know about it, but that once they do know about it they won't like it?

An RBE won't work because it complete fucking nonsense. I didn't say anything about people "not liking" it.

So whilst I agree with large chunks of your post, in principle, I see it as inherently naive of a person to vote for a party that has the bare minimum of policy detail on display...

Like I've said before, most voters don't vote for anyone, they vote against what the most dislike. That's why I'm such a fan of preferential voting, it allows people to give support to parties they actually agree with, without the fear they're letting the other guy in.

[mashman]

An RBE won't work because it complete fucking nonsense. I didn't say anything about people "not liking" it.

Like I've said before, most voters don't vote for anyone, they vote against what the most dislike. That's why I'm such a fan of preferential voting, it allows people to give support to parties they actually agree with, without the fear they're letting the other guy in.

So why is it a complete fucking nonsense? Don't you understand it?

So you've asked them all? You reckon that the majority vote negatively? I don't. The system of voting is going to change what exactly? It's a facade.

[Jantar]

Because the alternative would be voting for the status quo?

So just to clear this up:
- if you don't vote you are happy with the government, so you don't feel the need for change.
- if you do vote you should be happy with the government because you voted for them.

Your right - it is simple. I believe the term is "lose-lose situation".
But who knows - your elected government might deliver exactly what you ever wanted in life. If so - congratulations to you, and I am so horribly wrong.

Not quite:
- if you don't vote you are happy with the government, so you don't feel the need for change.
- if you do vote you should be happy with the government if you voted for them, and they carry out the policies they said.
- if you do vote you should NOT be happy with the government if you voted for them, and they do not carry out the policies they said.
- If you do vote you should NOT be happy with the government if you didn't vote for them.

If you are not happy with the status quo then you must vote to change it, because a non vote will never change it.

Incidentally, I did not vote National, and will not while John Key and Nick Smith are in Parliament.