Stupid World

**Brian d marge** · 28th September 2014, 13:05

Bollx its all in the frenology

**mashman** · 28th September 2014, 13:11

Max at his brutally honest best.

They had a guy on from that positivemoney crowd oldrider keeps bangin on about. He didn't say much mind

EDITY: And an interesting take on

Originally Posted by Brian d marge

The deregulation bill currently before westminster ,

Yes as was said . HIDDEN in the bill was Clause 83

Snip
Exercise of regulatory functions: economic growth
(1) A person exercising a regulatory function to which this section applies must,
in the exercise of the function, have
regard to the desirability of promoting
economic growth.
(2) In performing the duty under subsection (1), the person must, in particular,
consider the importance for the promotion of economic growth of exercising
the regulatory function in
a way which ensures that—
(a) regulatory action is taken only when it is needed, and
(b) any action taken is proportionate

They even repealed the pit pony regulation of 1956

Coal and Other Mines (Horses) Order (S.I. 1956/1777)
38 The Coal and Other Mines (Horses) Order 1956 is revoked

**yokel** · 28th September 2014, 13:34

Originally Posted by mashman

Aye, schools, the schooling system, the age at which a child goes to/finishes school, uni etc... all how we wish it to be run and not suffocated by budget constraint. If, for arguments sake, there is no financial system, that also means that there are going to be one hell of a lot of unemployed people. Wonder how many would train to become teachers? so that the classrooms could have more resources.
It is the parents responsibility, but as you mention, that responsibility isn't always fulfilled for one reason or another. I'd like to see breakfast served at schools. Then at least you KNOW that they'd be fed.
Aye, it ain't always money, hence feeding them at school (should they require it) as a catch all. That the primary caregiver fails in their duty should not be allowed to be an acceptable reason for their to be starving children.

Do kids only eat when they're at school?Removing the parents responsibility will not help one bit.
If you send your kids to school with no food that is child neglect, if you can't? sort your shit out.

As for a no money system?
Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it

**Brian d marge** · 28th September 2014, 13:37

when the homeland thuggees get threaten ....it becomes homeland terror....and must be wiped out

http://www.copblock.org/

Stephen

the traffic will be routed to NSA

**Brian d marge** · 28th September 2014, 13:51

Originally Posted by mashman

Max at his brutally honest best.

They had a guy on from that positivemoney crowd oldrider keeps bangin on about. He didn't say much mind

EDITY: And an interesting take on

if they hide shit like that in obscure legislation , in England . They sure as hell do it here ....Burnt them and all their evil offspring !

Even the good guys can turn............

http://fat-pie.com/burntfaceman/7.htm

Stephen

**mashman** · 28th September 2014, 21:36

Originally Posted by yokel

Do kids only eat when they're at school?Removing the parents responsibility will not help one bit.
If you send your kids to school with no food that is child neglect, if you can't? sort your shit out.

As for a no money system?
Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it

I thought that would come up. Why, all of a sudden, would people stop feeding their own kids? I'd still feed mine as it's time with them. No doubt there will be some that won't give a shit, so the catch all is in place for whatever reason, but it serves a single function: if a kid is hungry, it should be fed irrespective of parental ability. The reason is the kid, the rest is excuse not to feed the kid.
I agree, it is child neglect. WE need to worry about looking after the kid before the parent is dealt with.

That's one wish I hope will come true. The change in people will be radical and it will be swift. They are all human after all.

**mashman** · 28th September 2014, 21:39

Originally Posted by Brian d marge

if they hide shit like that in obscure legislation , in England . They sure as hell do it here ....Burnt them and all their evil offspring !

Even the good guys can turn............

http://fat-pie.com/burntfaceman/7.htm

Stephen

It's for our own good.

**Brian d marge** · 28th September 2014, 22:10

Originally Posted by mashman

It's for our own good.

Alf .........

Stephen

**yokel** · 28th September 2014, 23:10

Originally Posted by mashman

I thought that would come up. Why, all of a sudden, would people stop feeding their own kids? I'd still feed mine as it's time with them. No doubt there will be some that won't give a shit, so the catch all is in place for whatever reason, but it serves a single function: if a kid is hungry, it should be fed irrespective of parental ability. The reason is the kid, the rest is excuse not to feed the kid.
I agree, it is child neglect. WE need to worry about looking after the kid before the parent is dealt with.

That's one wish I hope will come true. The change in people will be radical and it will be swift. They are all human after all.

with out a doubt no child should go hungry,but dont let the emotional aspect of that mess with what is the right thing to do.
"if a kid is hungry, it should be fed irrespective of parental ability" that's fine as long as the said parents are punished for not for fulling their obligations as parents other wise you will just expand the problem.
why do we have a useless antismaking law that no one wanted yet it's ok to send kids to school with no food? this is the result of some nasty social engineering at work just to generate more taxation.
add to that social welfare which is a killer of human motivation and lots of other tricks that keeps money moving.
"they" dont want people to be responsible adults.

people are well conditioned to be consumers and spend all they have on shiny shit, I know plenty of people that make good money but still live pay check to pay check,

"Why, all of a sudden, would people stop feeding their own kids?" < this is your own brainwashing at work , it's being happening for a while. but now it's "all of a sudden" all over the media

no need to hope your wish will come true, the change will be swift, radical and painful.

Fuck a talk some shit haha

**SPman** · 28th September 2014, 23:36

Russia Discovers Massive Arctic Oil Field Which May Be Larger Than Gulf Of Mexico

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-0...er-gulf-mexico

Ha Ha!

**Brian d marge** · 28th September 2014, 23:46

all hail Brother Nate

Stephen

**mashman** · 29th September 2014, 09:12

Originally Posted by yokel

with out a doubt no child should go hungry,but dont let the emotional aspect of that mess with what is the right thing to do.
"if a kid is hungry, it should be fed irrespective of parental ability" that's fine as long as the said parents are punished for not for fulling their obligations as parents other wise you will just expand the problem.
why do we have a useless antismaking law that no one wanted yet it's ok to send kids to school with no food? this is the result of some nasty social engineering at work just to generate more taxation.
add to that social welfare which is a killer of human motivation and lots of other tricks that keeps money moving.
"they" dont want people to be responsible adults.

people are well conditioned to be consumers and spend all they have on shiny shit, I know plenty of people that make good money but still live pay check to pay check,

"Why, all of a sudden, would people stop feeding their own kids?" < this is your own brainwashing at work , it's being happening for a while. but now it's "all of a sudden" all over the media

no need to hope your wish will come true, the change will be swift, radical and painful.

Fuck a talk some shit haha

The right thing to do is to feed the kid. The right thing to do is an emotional decision, it always will be as every single second of our lives and every single issue that crosses our path is subjective.
Punished? You meant helped, if help is needed right? I reckon punishment, if they're that bad of a parent, could well do more damage than good.
Thing is, that taxation is required in order to get the kid fed and we rely on law/regulation/legislation/lies/statistics etc... to arrest such behaviour (which is impossible). By default, the only social engineering that is required required is to have us reliant on money. I'm sure there are a feckload of things that are receiving money that shouldn't be, but there's only so much $ to go round and to a certain degree I pity the politicians who have to work within such parameters.
Social welfare is not a killer of human motivation in the slightest. It's an excuse for some to become lazy, but the great unwashed still rise up off their arses and find, geanted not always legal, ways of topping that up. The motivation excuse is pathetic propaganda. Why not lead with, sorry, we don't have enough well paying jobs for all of you (55% of the country apparantly). THAT is the reason a lot of people aren't in work. There is no other truth and it certainly isn't a dependency of social welfare as they don't all sit on their arses doing nothing. That's a myth!
They already are responsible adults... but adults make choices that goes against the law and unfortunately that means that joe public declares that they have the right to stick the boot in and decide that people aren't being responsible. For me, if a guy on welfare (thick as pigshit, not a people person, socially stunted etc...) is out thieving so that his family can eat a little better (or can afford a bag of weed), as much as I wouldn't condone that behaviour, I'd rather they Robin Hooded it than the family struggled (that looking after the kid thing). These adults are responsible, but they break they make bad decisions under shit circumstances. The rest is bullshit propaganda used to browbeat a majority into believing that the unemployed are somehow lower class citizens that are dragging the economy down and therefore you are just to treat them as you wish. Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't believe the hype.

lol, aye it's a bastard that things get more expensive and the cheque at the end of the week doesn't go as far as it used to. Sure it's their own fault at times, but the only reason that times are good is because people are spending.

I know it has been happening since forever. It needs to change. There's no brainwashing there, it's just me accepting the facts and wanting to see something tangible done about it. Something no govt has been able to achieve because of financial constraint.

I choose an R.B.E. because the drawn out painful version of tribalistic warfare can be avoided. Our wars are for financial. As are our societal failures.

Basically a Resource Based Economy is a holistic approach to the issues that we face as human beings. In regards to punishment, I agree with you that parents are shite and need "help" in order to recognise their responsibilities. However given the current financial environment society really doesn't make it easy for a lot of individuals, whereas if most things are easy (access to unlimited and 1st grade education/healthcare/free electricity etc...) then these "bad" parents will have nowhere to hide from a judgemental society, absolutely nowhere. If they do not respond then yeah, at that point in time and given the fact that they will have had every form of "help" available, then I'd consider incarceration. So I'm not against it, but I am against punishing people for failing to deal with a set of circumstances that I have judged myself capable of being able to deal with. That's unfair. Kindness works better than derision and punishment.

I see your shit and raise you heaps more shit