Not so experienced after all (avimistry)

[Daffyd]

My low speed handling skills have certainly jumped up a notch or two since I moved to the Philippines.

[Maha]

In my opinion low speed handling success has more to do with the type of bike than the rider with trail/adventure bikes being better at handling than big road bikes/cruisers.

Head straight and looking forward & using the rear brake only.. done.

[george formby]

Head straight and looking forward & using the rear brake only.. done.

Yup. All bikes do it but it's the head, right hand and right foot which makes it happen. Breaking bad habits is another kettle of fish.

[avimistry]

In my opinion low speed handling success has more to do with the type of bike than the rider with trail/adventure bikes being better at handling than big road bikes/cruisers.

I think type of bike plays a small part, but it's largely rider skill/experience. But irrespective which side of the fence you sit on i think all riders should master, or atleast build on their, low speed handling. It makes for better and safer riders.

[caseye]

" have seen low speed highly skilled big bike handlers too but being good at doing that where there is little chance of major injury or death is a lot different to real road riding situations. You will note he did knock over a road cone and I bet if he had been on a trail/adventure bike it would not have happened which does support my view plus I do own both types of bike so my opinion is based on experience."

Your experience isn't necessarily that of others.Like Ducat i said, "go away"
By the way hooning on any bike IS going to get you into situations that your'e probably not yet experienced enough to get out of, learn to ride on the road without falling off before attempting to do anything mildly taxing and please, don't do it around other bike riders.

[avimistry]

By the way hooning on any bike IS going to get you into situations that your'e probably not yet experienced enough to get out of, learn to ride on the road without falling off before attempting to do anything mildly taxing and please, don't do it around other bike riders.

Can't agree more. I remember back in my hooning days when I first started getting the front end up, gave it too much throttle and landed flat on my face. Also messed up the bike pretty badly. If i had known then that a tap of the rear brake would bring the nose down it would have saved me alot of hassle and money. But most importantly and luckily it was a quiet suburban road and I was the only one on it, especially no kids out playing. Learnt my lesson then and there, and I'd giveup my license (well when I get it) before I attempt that again.

[george formby]

I think type of bike plays a small part, but it's largely rider skill/experience. But irrespective which side of the fence you sit on i think all riders should master, or atleast build on their, low speed handling. It makes for better and safer riders.

Yup.
A world class stunt rider said that what works at 20kmh works at 120kmh. I bang on repeatedly about this but good slow speed handling skills translate to the road perfectly. Learning & practicing the techniques on a lighter bike allows you to get away with mistakes by sticking a foot out. Once you have got your head around it the bike is pretty much irrelevant.
I'm addicted to hitting the lock stops in car parks. U turns on a fully loaded touring bike have shit me for years, not anymore. I love it.
The risks of learning are minimal, the rewards are immense.

[avimistry]

The risks of learning are minimal, the rewards are immense.

Couldn't have put it better..

[avimistry]

Not all of us get into bike riding to become hoons though.

I agree. I got into it and am returning for the pure love of the machines and the open road (and closed circuits). But when you're young your immaturity tends to get the better of you, not deliberately but for lack of thinking ahead. I believe a bike has a soul and if not treated with the utmost respect it will throw you to the kerb faster than you can say 'hoon'.