Yes they do suffer from the same flaw that is they're both women,Originally Posted by Winston001
Not like auntie Helen who had the balls to admit defeat
Scooter boy
Yes they do suffer from the same flaw that is they're both women,
Not like auntie Helen who had the balls to admit defeat
Anorak
Cullen was also smart enough to know no one liked him.........
Kinky is using a feather. Perverted is using the whole chicken
Anarchic Wild Child
Yeah .. and neither will the Nats, the Fundamentalist Christians, the homophobs ...
He's got minimal chance then ...
But I have a more general question .. many here did not vote Labour and never will vote Labour .. and do not want a Labour Prime Minister ...
So why the hell are you discussing who should be the leader of the Labour party - a party you do not want to win???
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Born to be mild
Same reason an All Black supporter might discuss the makeup of the Aussie rugby team.
Why does it distress you that 'non-believers' are talking about the biggest political story in NZ at present? Labour's recent thrashing still a bit raw?
Grow older but never grow up
Forum whore
Pre election he appoligised for everything - even being a man. Post election .......
Born to be mild
Said it before and I'll say it again (and I'm a Nat supporter) ... Cunliffe did OK for himself during the campaign. It was the Labour policies that let them down. Blame the message Labour ... not the messenger.
Grow older but never grow up
I'ma get medieval on your ass!
Agreed. Cunliffe did better than expected. But his lack of humility and fake smiles made him seem untrustworthy.
Actually I don't think Labour's policies were bad but they had too many and couldn't explain them in detail. Chris Trotter says they should have had four big policy ideas and hammered them.
For example, Capital Gains Tax. On a good day with a fair wind I could be persuaded so long as it applied to everyone (like GST). But Labour (and Cunliffe) didn't actually know what they were proposing. Its ludicrous to come up with a new tax but not know how it will work.
All Labour needed to do was say we will use the Australian/German/Finland model and job done. We don't need to reinvent taxation wheels.
Psyclepath
Because either:
a) it's funny watching them fight amongst themselves
b) we do actually need a strong competent opposition to keep the government on its toes
c) the way our system works, it's kind of inevitable that we'll have a Labour PM in about six years times
d) all of the above.
Only a homo puts an engine back together WITHOUT making it go faster.
Anarchic Wild Child
Not raw at all - I haven't voted Labour for a long time ... (Last century some time ...) .. and the loss was very very predictable ...
I don't care whether non-believers discuss it at all .. I was just interested in why so many Nat supporters are discussing it - doesn't seem relevant to them at all .. and I would have thought that for Nat supporters, a weak Labour leader was the best option - means the Nats get re-elected easily ..
I like these answers .. yes, politics is a spectator sport .. yes we do need to keep the Government on it's toes - whichever the Government is ... yes, we MIGHT get a Labour-led Government in six years - but right now that's a BIG might ...
"So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."
Nana
Sort of B.
Without a strong opposition the government cannot operate efficiently or effectively.
A bit like if the All Blacks took on an under 14 side.
There would be lots of touchdowns. At the end of time history would show they were victorious.
But would it be good to watch? Would it be sport still?
Would you see any excellent plays from the all blacks? Or would all the top plays be from the junior team?
Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.
Just faidin away!
The same reason why all those proclaiming to be non religious, non christians etc never stop talking about religion!It's what they do!
"channellling the Pleideans"
pointing and laughing works for both in my experienceThe same reason why all those proclaiming to be non religious, non christians etc never stop talking about religion!
I thought elections were decided by angry posts on social media. - F5 Dave
Just faidin away!
OK -- my comment was intended as an observation not a defence or offence of either!
Curmudgeon
What is wrong with non-religious people speaking about religion?The same reason why all those proclaiming to be non religious, non christians etc never stop talking about religion!
Religion has shaped a lot of our society, good and bad.
Aio ki te Aorangi
As the non-religious didn't vote for religion, they're not allowed to complain about religion.
I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!
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