Stupid World

[Akzle]

I was gong by his posts as evidence of his thoughts; as is what we all do online. I understand he is a much meeker man in person, but this is of no real relevance to the point at hand.

His thinking that his opinions are worth more than another's ...
He believes he is entitled to what I have earned,

but bog, youre reading through a haze of glitter and donkey shit, you (obviously)have no idea my meaning, and you are so far below that you struggle to grasp even the edge of 'my' ideas.

And, for the last time, darlin, you give it me, ergo, its mine. Theres no entitlement about that. Just fact.

[bogan]

She saw yet another failed capitalist system. They abused money to the detriment of the population back then too. If she were here to day I'd have her converted in a matter of minutes as she's obviously intelligent if not somewhat bias based on her observations.

I wouldn't necessarily call him meek. I would call him honest though.

He doesn't think that his opinion is worth more than anothers. That's not what a disagreement is. I have no doubt he understands your position, hence the ability to explain a different one. If you're writing him off because of how you have translated his posts, then that's not his issue. Call us what you like... we will know the truth.

No, he's saying that you give it and he will accept that gift graciously and with thanks if and when that time comes. Sorry, I was submitting a fact in regards to entitlement complex. It wasn't open for debate. That you believe that you are in a position to make that judgement concerns me.

Well you are. You're wanting to choose who should be allowed to receive your handout. You've voted for a govt to do that on your behalf. I fail to see how you can see that any differently... unless you didn't vote of course?

That's just fucking delusional, so obviously nothing more will be gained from discussion such.

Like I said, of no relevance anyway.

No who is puttin gwords into whose mouth? He said "and yes, my opinion is way, way above yours. no major or minor labia about it. me vs you. i win"

Why am I even discussing what he says with you anyway, he tried to do it himself and failed misrebly, you're off to an even worse start. So lets come back to something which can actually be discussed without ending in the mass of 'this means that' semantics you seem to prefer.

"The flaw was that you offered no other mechanism in its place; yet are trying to apply the answer to a specific mechanism of your interpretation of an R.B.E. I voted yes because I would like to live in such a society but only if it was realistically sustainable (by replacing the mechanism of money with something else). Lets see if you really think it representative, do another one and this time a simple yes/no but you have to outline the exact system of resource allocation. Get even 25% yes in that one and I shall not post in this thread ever again; but I know you don't, won't, and can't."

So yeh, put up or shut up babble on about how your revocation fo your right to intelligence makes you smarter than me if you only just rewrite the dictionary/history/reality to your advantage.

[mashman]

The flaw was that you offered no other mechanism in its place; yet are trying to apply the answer to a specific mechanism of your interpretation of an R.B.E. I voted yes because I would like to live in such a society but only if it was realistically sustainable (by replacing the mechanism of money with something else). Lets see if you really think it representative, do another one and this time a simple yes/no but you have to outline the exact system of resource allocation. Get even 25% yes in that one and I shall not post in this thread ever again; but I know you don't, won't, and can't.

Like I said, <0.01%, the people have spoken. It is not intelligent to think that <0.01% represent the will of the people. Neither is it intelligent to draw trends from such small sample data.

In which case people had the option to say No. Well an R.B.E. does not run using money. Striking resemblance. The system matters not to some people, so long as the stated outcomes are positive across the board and are met and addressed across the board. If you want to re-frame the question in a poll, then by all means go and do it... but still doesn't change the validity or the outcome of the poll and the options given. Yer dreamin...

... I hope they're not insulted at being called unintelligent because they voted on, what you claim, is a badly worded poll. Yer dreamin... I don't see KB as mis-representative of people in general.

[bogan]

And, for the last time, darlin, you give it me, ergo, its mine. Theres no entitlement about that. Just fact.

To demand the gift though, that is entitlement.

[mashman]

That's just fucking delusional, so obviously nothing more will be gained from discussion such.

Like I said, of no relevance anyway.

No who is puttin gwords into whose mouth? He said "and yes, my opinion is way, way above yours. no major or minor labia about it. me vs you. i win"

Why am I even discussing what he says with you anyway, he tried to do it himself and failed misrebly, you're off to an even worse start. So lets come back to something which can actually be discussed without ending in the mass of 'this means that' semantics you seem to prefer.

"The flaw was that you offered no other mechanism in its place; yet are trying to apply the answer to a specific mechanism of your interpretation of an R.B.E. I voted yes because I would like to live in such a society but only if it was realistically sustainable (by replacing the mechanism of money with something else). Lets see if you really think it representative, do another one and this time a simple yes/no but you have to outline the exact system of resource allocation. Get even 25% yes in that one and I shall not post in this thread ever again; but I know you don't, won't, and can't."

So yeh, put up or shut up babble on about how your revocation fo your right to intelligence makes you smarter than me if you only just rewrite the dictionary/history/reality to your advantage.

Brave brave sir bogin, quoted rand an ran away, away he ran he ran away.....

Squirrel.

[bogan]

In which case people had the option to say No. Well an R.B.E. does not run using money. Striking resemblance. The system matters not to some people, so long as the stated outcomes are positive across the board and are met and addressed across the board. If you want to re-frame the question in a poll, then by all means go and do it... but still doesn't change the validity or the outcome of the poll and the options given. Yer dreamin...

... I hope they're not insulted at being called unintelligent because they voted on, what you claim, is a badly worded poll. Yer dreamin... I don't see KB as mis-representative of people in general.

Exactly, yours does not address those, this is why you get <0.01% support. Don't believe me, run the poll again but put your system vs the current one (I can't run it cos you keep telling me I have no idea how your system works). Your logic at the moment is like saying 50% of NZ support the money free party because 50% didn't vote for national in the current election. The question is not what people don't vote for, but what they do, and in both cases yours wasn't in the running.

Nobody is being called unintelligent becasue of what they vote on. People who wrongly interpret the results of polls are however, demonstrably unintelligent.

Brave brave sir bogin, quoted rand an ran away, away he ran he ran away.....

Squirrel.

Yet it is you who runs at the hint of any argument that does not come down to you just having a rewrite of the dictionary/history/reality to your advantage.

[mashman]

Exactly, yours does not address those, this is why you get <0.01% support. Don't believe me, run the poll again but put your system vs the current one (I can't run it cos you keep telling me I have no idea how your system works). Your logic at the moment is like saying 50% of NZ support the money free party because 50% didn't vote for national in the current election. The question is not what people don't vote for, but what they do, and in both cases yours wasn't in the running.

Nobody is being called unintelligent becasue of what they vote on. People who wrongly interpret the results of polls are however, demonstrably unintelligent.

Yet it is you who runs at the hint of any argument that does not come down to you just having a rewrite of the dictionary/history/reality to your advantage.

You have no argument. The question and answers stand in their own right. You run the poll as you want certain terms of reference added before answering the question.

. Fuck that was funny, chur.

We've done that to death. You have a full cup. Squirrel.

[bogan]

The question and answers stand in their own right.

Question 1; how many of NZ supported the money free party during the 2014 general election?

Answer, <0.01%.

Yes, I agree the question and answer does stand in it's own right.

Question 2; how many kwibikers who bothered to vote in mashy's poll (99) would live in NZ if there was no financial system?
Answer; 47.5%

Interpretation of both questions; People are willing to put up with (mashy failed to ask if people wanted to live here in such circumstance, just whether they would or not) a money free society, but not support it.

[Akzle]

i wish ocean would come back. He's more interesting. But he might be out RIDING HIS MOTORBIKE.

Beaut fuken weather an' all.

Id have a beer with you bog. Once.

[mashman]

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[Ocean1]

no no hosc. Dont dodge this one like some kind of illiterate bitch, youre better than that.

Ohyea, when it comes to comprehension I'm better than you by pretty much the complete discipline in question. Which is why I'm qualified to educate you in such matters as rights.

Who assigns 'rights'?

In particular it's not you. Not ever. In fact the duty of assigning rights belongs to the members of your society.

Only fools believe they have any ability to arbitrarily assume any sort of rights and have any of their contemporaries respect them.

[Brian d marge]

Question 1; how many of NZ supported the money free party during the 2014 general election?

Answer, <0.01%.

Yes, I agree the question and answer does stand in it's own right.

Question 2; how many kwibikers who bothered to vote in mashy's poll (99) would live in NZ if there was no financial system?
Answer; 47.5%

Interpretation of both questions; People are willing to put up with (mashy failed to ask if people wanted to live here in such circumstance, just whether they would or not) a money free society, but not support it.

Asking sheep , do they prefer the - freezing works - or -green pasture- is like pissing into the wind as they have no concept of both .....

As for the frog, well hes happy in his nice warm place ........

Watch the left hand side of the whiteboard , Mr banke manager isnt lending to the high street , he is in the stockmarket .......

Well he was , hes been buying hard assets as of late , ...watch that market come down , me thinks

Not an IF , more like a when ,........


Stephen


making table candles ..oh yea ~

[Akzle]

Ohyea, when it comes to comprehension I'm better than you by pretty much the complete discipline in question. Which is why I'm qualified to educate you in such matters as rights.



In particular it's not you. Not ever. In fact the duty of assigning rights belongs to the members of your society.

Only fools believe they have any ability to arbitrarily assume any sort of rights and have any of their contemporaries respect them.

poor. poor. hosc.


1) educate me? please do, what is it you know that i do not?

2)did i claim the right to assign rights? no... i asked who does. you didn't answer..
my society? there's a few of us now... just wait

3)contemporaries? son, you're far below my contemporary...

[bogan]

Asking sheep , do they prefer the - freezing works - or -green pasture- is like pissing into the wind as they have no concept of both .....

As for the frog, well hes happy in his nice warm place ........

Are you saying that before voting there is an aptitude test to weed out the 'sheep'? Or some other way of not counting or redistributing the opinion of society?

I'm not completely opposed to either of those things, but like a money free society, the replacement mechanism must be superior to what it replaces.

[oldrider]

Asking sheep , do they prefer the - freezing works - or -green pasture- is like pissing into the wind as they have no concept of both .....

As for the frog, well hes happy in his nice warm place ........

Watch the left hand side of the whiteboard , Mr banke manager isnt lending to the high street , he is in the stockmarket .......

Well he was , hes been buying hard assets as of late , ...watch that market come down , me thinks

Not an IF , more like a when ,........

Stephen

In a true capitalist/market economy Barry the Bank manager should be left to go broke or be dismissed, based on his own banking performance!

His banking business is being propped up artificially "twice" by the government, at the expense of the taxpayer!

That is the anomaly that the government should be fixing!

Instead they keep just propping him up again and again with quantitative easing using true taxpayer based wealth to do it!

This is a case of the tail wagging the dog and it happens because the politicians and the electorate know not what Barry the banker really does!

Barry the banker behaves the way he does because the vested interests that put him there do so to maintain their own special privileged lifestyle!

They will not relinquish their hold over society willingly it will have to be wrenched off them by political strong men who know exactly what they are doing!

Did we elect "any" of those strong types of politicians at the last general election?

It has been said that we elect the government that we deserve! .. Did we do that last time?

John Key is a banker, he must know exactly what is going on but where do his loyalties actually lie?

Is it with Barry the banker and his benefactors? Or is it with the electorate that he represents?

That is an important question for every New Zealand voter to ask and understand!

Unfortunately the media circus makes sure that we never focus on that question by constantly raising meaningless distractions!