Page 2 of 21 FirstFirst 123412 ... LastLast
Results 16 to 30 of 308

Thread: Global warming?

  1. #16
    Join Date
    17th June 2010 - 16:44
    Bike
    bandit
    Location
    Bay of Plenty
    Posts
    2,885
    "So if you meet me, have some sympathy, have some courtesy, have some taste ..."

  2. #17
    Join Date
    21st August 2004 - 12:00
    Bike
    2017 Suzuki Dl1000
    Location
    Picton
    Posts
    5,177
    There is a new paper just published that drops the trend of the New Zealand temperature record (NZTR) to 0.28C per century, down from ~0.9C per century. The paper has finally made it through peer review more than a year after it was submitted to the journal Environmental Modeling & Assessment.

    A Reanalysis of Long-Term Surface Air Temperature Trends in New Zealand
    C.R. de Freitas with M.O. Dedekind and B.E. Brill.

    Abstract

    Detecting trends in climate is important in assessments of global change based on regional long-term data. Equally important is the reliability of the results that are widely used as a major input for a large number of societal design and planning purposes. New Zealand provides a rare long temperature time series in the Southern Hemisphere, and it is one of the longest continuous climate series available in the Southern Hemisphere Pacific. It is therefore important that this temperature dataset meets the highest quality control standards. New Zealand’s national record for the period 1909 to 2009 is analysed and the data homogenized. Current New Zealand century-long climatology based on 1981 methods produces a trend of 0.91 °C per century. Our analysis, which uses updated measurement techniques and corrects for shelter-contaminated data, produces a trend of 0.28 °C per century.
    Conclusion:

    Using well-accepted homogenization methods, we have derived a mean land surface air temperature trend for New
    Zealand over the past century of 0.28±0.29 °C per century, which is considerably less than the S81/M10 value of 0.91±
    0.30 °C per century. By excluding weighted averages and including adjustments which are not statistically significant,
    S81 may have allowed too many “false positives” to occur. In addition, using long comparison time periods may have
    allowed creeping inhomogeneities and undocumented shifts at reference sites to skew the individual adjustments. This is
    borne out by Table 5, which demonstrates that in every case the S81 station adjustments greatly increased the individual trends, while the RS93 method resulted in equal numbers of increases and decreases. As noted previously, S81 did not account for gradual effects such as sheltering or UHI. The detrending of Albert Park in Auckland and Kelburn in Wellington also contributed significantly to the mean trend result.
    We have also shown that a very similar outcome would follow if those two stations were not corrected but simply omitted
    from the series.
    Time to ride

  3. #18
    Join Date
    25th October 2002 - 12:00
    Bike
    Old Blue, Little blue
    Location
    31.29.57.11, 116.22.22.22
    Posts
    4,864
    Is there a link to this paper?
    “- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”

  4. #19
    Join Date
    21st August 2004 - 12:00
    Bike
    2017 Suzuki Dl1000
    Location
    Picton
    Posts
    5,177
    Quote Originally Posted by SPman View Post
    Is there a link to this paper?
    http://link.springer.com/article/10....-9429-z#page-1
    Time to ride

  5. #20
    Join Date
    25th October 2002 - 12:00
    Bike
    Old Blue, Little blue
    Location
    31.29.57.11, 116.22.22.22
    Posts
    4,864
    Quote Originally Posted by Reckless View Post
    Thought this might generate some discussion.

    Scam

    http://www.sott.net/article/277349-T...ming-is-a-scam

    The quibbling over methodology is a common diversion by 'pseudo skeptics'.

    You can present the evidence again and again and they default to the same diversionary tactics.

    Another tactic is to accuse thousands of scientists of lying, cheating, falsifying or massaging data just so they can get on the research grant gravy train.........


    “- He felt that his whole life was some kind of dream and he sometimes wondered whose it was and whether they were enjoying it.”

  6. #21
    Join Date
    21st August 2004 - 12:00
    Bike
    2017 Suzuki Dl1000
    Location
    Picton
    Posts
    5,177
    Quote Originally Posted by SPman View Post
    ......
    Another tactic is to accuse thousands of scientists of lying, cheating, falsifying or massaging data just so they can get on the research grant gravy train.........


    No, only about 12 (max) who do that. Only 2 confirmed, but the other 10 are associates who have based their papers on work by those 2. Where do you get this number of "thousands" from?

    Most of the scientists who are currently researching climate are using the same data, and coming up with different results. That alone is what tells us that the science is not settled.
    Time to ride

  7. #22
    Join Date
    20th October 2005 - 17:09
    Bike
    Its a Boat
    Location
    ----->
    Posts
    14,901
    Strange shit happens with weather patterns, always have done and always will do, nothing new there. I remember (as a kid in PN) it snowing in Ashhurst and later in life (early 80's) living in Taupo where the temperature was frequently in the early to mid 30's during one summer.

  8. #23
    Join Date
    9th April 2006 - 19:56
    Bike
    YZ 144, monster 800, rs250
    Location
    Tauranga
    Posts
    40
    Quote Originally Posted by Jantar View Post
    Most of the scientists who are currently researching climate are using the same data, and coming up with different results. That alone is what tells us that the science is not settled.
    in other words it's bullshit science,
    they will never get the science settled because there is no control eg another planet earth

  9. #24
    Join Date
    20th January 2008 - 17:29
    Bike
    1972 Norton Commando
    Location
    Auckland NZ's Epicentre
    Posts
    3,554
    I believe Global warming is due to Terrorists with box cutters.
    DeMyer's Laws - an argument that consists primarily of rambling quotes isn't worth bothering with.

  10. #25
    Join Date
    17th April 2011 - 14:39
    Bike
    Honda VF750f.
    Location
    Nelson
    Posts
    4,330
    I blame NASA, all those rockets and shit poking holes in the ozone layer.
    For a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him. Keep an open mind, just dont let your brains fall out.

  11. #26
    Join Date
    6th May 2008 - 14:15
    Bike
    She resents being called a bike
    Location
    Wellllie
    Posts
    1,494
    Blog Entries
    3
    I believe that global warming is us moving closer and further away from the sun... and A.G.W. and hot bitches constantly gettin their tats oot.
    I didn't think!!! I experimented!!!

  12. #27
    Join Date
    5th November 2009 - 09:50
    Bike
    GSXR750, KTM350EXCF
    Location
    Auckland
    Posts
    2,264
    I believe you guys need to worry less and ride more.

  13. #28
    Join Date
    9th June 2005 - 13:22
    Bike
    Sold
    Location
    Oblivion
    Posts
    2,945
    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    I believe Global warming is due to Terrorists with box cutters.
    What are the odds on a KB 3:1 ratio on that?

  14. #29
    Join Date
    9th April 2006 - 19:56
    Bike
    YZ 144, monster 800, rs250
    Location
    Tauranga
    Posts
    40
    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire View Post
    I believe Global warming is due to Terrorists with box cutters.
    Almost, the same outfit that dreamed up terrorists with box cutters also dreamed up global warming/climate change.
    Hence all the disinformation and confusion

  15. #30
    Join Date
    17th August 2005 - 11:00
    Bike
    22"Z900rsSE, Z1R, FZR1000, KTM 2 smoker
    Location
    East Auckland
    Posts
    4,479
    Just to keep you thinking

    FFS Now talking about geo engineering 10 decades of aerosols into the atmosphere

    Popped up on FB here http://www.dcclothesline.com/2014/04...-consequences/

    On a Motorcycle you're penetrating distance, right along with the machine!! In a car you're just a spectator, the windshields like a TV!!

    'Life's Journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out! Shouting, ' Holy sh!t... What a Ride!! '

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •