Police getting tougher on speed tolerance

[Kiwi Graham:Me]

Speed limit for towing trailer is? You broke the law, in your mind it was ok to do so, but you still broke the law. Same with me smoking a little weed(again, not talking about impaired driving here) I feel fine with smoking some weed, but I'm still breaking the law.

Answer is 90, trouble is his speedo may have said 89 yet he got pinged for 96. Of course his speedo could have read 105. Oops, see what I did there.
To insist on accuracy to a degree that is not achievable is foolish.

[buggerit]

A lot easier when you're a corrupt copper I assume?

Thats going a bit far mate

[Madness]

I dont see how you can even argue this point

I suspect that'll be due to your head being so far up your own arse again.

Im pretty sure you wont get thrown in jail if you smoke a little weed at home. Its called being lenient. Doesnt always happen out on the road.

You got thrown in jail for towing a trailer at 96? Jebus! that copper was a good cunt.

[Grubber]

I suspect that'll be due to your head being so far up your own arse again.

And here is the other dope smoker as usual. Having a quiet day are we!

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[Madness]

And here is the other dope smoker as usual. Having a quiet day are we!

I prefer to refer to it as Cannabis. End of the month, budget's been smashed again, time to kick back & relax with a few doobs. You?

[Grubber]

I prefer to refer to it as Cannabis. End of the month, budget's been smashed again, time to kick back & relax with a few doobs. You?

Keep forgetting " dope" is what I call the user. Sorry bout that. Confirmation is well cemented in your posts.

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[imdying]

I suspect that'll be due to your head being so far up your own arse again.

Woah woah woah, it's not hypocrisy when he does it, don't 'cha know?

[ruaphu]

Ok, i kno i'm gonna get shot to bits for not backing the 'right' views here, but hey fuck it thats what a forum is for. So here's my rant, lol.

I bleated my head off the first time the 4kph limit was imposed and ranted my spleen about govt BS and so forth to anyone that would listen.

Roll forward to now.
Has it made life on the road worse? Nah.
Has it lessened my enjoyment riding? Nah.
Did the law impugn my holiday riding/driving life? Nah.
If anything, has it made holiday riding ANY better? (just to be clear, NOT safer!) .........erm........... If honest, yeah!

So what was the problem???...... My fucking attitude and ego and somehow getting it fixed in my head i had some sorta unwritten right to speed!

If anything these limits have improved my holiday touring and tripping around as the halfwits are driving with some modicum of control. My touring times haven't changed, and sometimes improved, go figure eh.

Why? From what I've experienced with the speed curtailed the road traffic seems to flow better. When needed, the speed at which i can overtake is alot lower and done with ease n less stress with a simple blip on the throttle. None of this wait for a gap, swap cogs and thrash the bike up to some licence destroying speeds BS, nah just a simple roll on, overtake, roll off, done n dusted. I amble down the hiways n back roads and when needed thread the needle around traffic and still have a great ride.

Yep, i did exceed the 104kmh limit to overtake. My choice, however done with more care, less often, and with lower overtaking speeds. If i got caught so be it, i accept that, at the days end i was wrong and the aim of these limits, i fully get that.

My back road scratching hasn't changed cos of these holiday limits. it is still enjoyable and still manage to gouge the tarmac all over the place putting a smile on my dial!

Yep granted i now ride a stupidly big leviathan that is built for comfort. However, I had the same experience on my stupidly fast and modified GSX 1200.

And Yep, I've had a speeding ticket, recently for 123kmh. So I'm no saint, just human. The officer was good bugger about it, as are the majority of the blue line. If ya want to act like a cock expect push back.

So after what, is it 3 years of close holiday speed policing? It's had fuck all negative impact on my riding experience, if anything it has improved holiday riding time and modified my attitude based on experience too eh. I still get to ENJOY saddle time even on our pathetically made & even worse maintained roads. If anything roading is the REAL biker issue, not holiday limits.

Be honest what REAL difference have these holiday limits impacted ya riding? Probably sweet fuck all!

So the govt makes a bit of coin at speeders expense, boo fucking who! My view, good on em, they only do it cos fuckwit road users simply don't learn eh.

Willy, full respect bro, you're burning energy looking the wrong way brother. You & I have lost good friends and family to these roads and the fuckwits on em. The ones that survived were left fucked up for life.


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[unstuck]

Answer is 90, trouble is his speedo may have said 89 yet he got pinged for 96. Of course his speedo could have read 105. Oops, see what I did there.
To insist on accuracy to a degree that is not achievable is foolish.

As is assuming that having coppers cruising the community is going to stop people from stabbing each other, In my opinion.

[bogan]

So what was the problem???...... My fucking attitude and ego and somehow getting it fixed in my head i had some sorta unwritten right to speed!

I can agree with that to a point; yes switching that part of the brain off and tootling along at or below the speed limit will lead to less frustration with the law. Or just not giving a shit and paying the taxes when applied as well. But it is the bigger picture, the safety aspect that is touted as the goal of this scheme, which is clearly a load of crap. Remember the roadsigns saying the speed limit is not a target? well putting this much focus on that limit makes it one. Speed can still be a factor in crashes when speeding isn't, something that seems to surprise many people given so much focus on the latter.

[Blackbird]

I can agree with that to a point; yes switching that part of the brain off and tootling along at or below the speed limit will lead to less frustration with the law. Or just not giving a shit and paying the taxes when applied as well. But it is the bigger picture, the safety aspect that is touted as the goal of this scheme, which is clearly a load of crap. Remember the roadsigns saying the speed limit is not a target? well putting this much focus on that limit makes it one. Speed can still be a factor in crashes when speeding isn't, something that seems to surprise many people given so much focus on the latter.

Yes indeedy!

There is a very good blog post which I strongly recommend people to have a look at: http://nosurprise.org.uk/2014/11/19/...nt-bad-people/ . It’s a reasonable length but stick with it as I believe it’s one of the most sensible and evidence-driven discourses on safe riding/accident mitigation that I've seen. Some of the psychological aspects between different types of riders are thought-provoking and I’d guess that car and truck drivers have parallels.

Whilst I have my own biases, the post shows that quality up-skilling goes a long way to mitigating risk. It’s a personal view but it also reinforces that many state-led road safety initiatives are relatively ineffective, ambulance at the bottom of the cliff approaches.

Real food for thought!

[Grubber]

Woah woah woah, it's not hypocrisy when he does it, don't 'cha know?

Hypocrisy????
Don't think so!
Many varying degrees of punishment for many varying degrees of crime.
Wouldn't expect to get a ticket in the mail for burglary would you, or even murder!
You get my point??? Na, probably not!

[bogan]

Wouldn't expect to get a ticket in the mail for burglary would you, or even murder!

Of course not, all the coppers supposed to be doing those jobs are now at the bottom of a hill hiding in the bushes with a radar gun.

[Kiwi Graham:Me]

As is assuming that having coppers cruising the community is going to stop people from stabbing each other, In my opinion.

geees you wern't at the front when they were handing out smarts eh!
The very claim the police are making is the zero tolerance 'will' have an impact so why would you not assume having the police errr 'police' our communities wouldn't do the same?
I never said cruising I said policing, its hard to interact with your community sat in a car

'Protect and serve' aint much of that going on is there.

Speed limits are there to limit speed, like wise road users should limit speed according to the conditions not to a number. I live on a road with a national speed limit, you'd be in the ditch by turn 2 if you attempted to travel at the national speed limit yet it is within the law to do so. Yet now our police are saying 1k over the speed limit is unacceptable regardless of whether the driver even knows he's is over the limit. I've read the difference from a new tyre to a legal worn tyre on some models can have a difference in exess of 1k, how do you callculate for that?

All I can see is frustration, actions or reactions out of character and a further reduction in an already eroded tolerance and respect of the police. Peolple will be driving around concentrating on the dash board of their truck, car or bike and not whats on the road

[Big Dog]

I see a lot of people getting tickets every day. On the way to work is usually good for at least one. I counted 2 speed cameras and 3 patrol cars that appeared to be either ticketing or taking notes and one assisting a motorist with what appeared to be a flat. But something to do with the back left corner that saw a police officer kneeling on wet ground while the driver chatted away on her mobile.
A patrol bike finished the set.
I see a few patrol cars parked out of the flow of traffic and the probable harms way but in all my time commuting I have only seen them hiding less than 5 times in the 16 years I have been in Auckland. The funny thing is, most people I see getting ticketed are stopped by marked cars. Out in the less heavily trafficked and consequently faster moving traffic I would guess 50/50.

If you don't want a "infringement notice" or the frequent flyer points associated you have always had the option of not infringing.


You can try and be vigilant. This will work most of the time, sooner or later you will have to pay the piper.

I personally have only ever had 1 speed camera and one hand written ticket on a bike.

I guess they must be to busy with the donuts to come out of hiding to ticket me?

Or more likely they just aren't hiding.


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