"Lest we forget"

[TheDemonLord]

read this one
tell me we were effective
tell me we acted with disinterested concern for the victimised Rwandan nationals
tell me our hands our clean

http://www.rwandanstories.org/genoci..._the_west.html

or weep - as I do.

I know very well what happened - some Western Soldiers got hurt and everyone got scarred and pulled out, instead of sending the Armoured divisions, backed up by Air support then later only realizing that actually that was the wrong call. Again, I put to you that the beliefs that you have held up in this debate are the exact reason why this happened.

I will tell you that we could have been effective if we weren't so scarred of having our soldiers hurt/die
I will tell you that we could have acted with more definitive concern, but we were held up by people not wanting to see western soldiers die.
I will tell you that our hands would be bloodier if we hadn't (eventually) sent in the troops

I don't weep, I just accept that when it is time for action, it should be swift, decisive and brutal. however others still cling to a delusion of that humanity is good and so delay action, often to the point as what happened in Rwanda.

[oldrider]

I know very well what happened - some Western Soldiers got hurt and everyone got scarred and pulled out, instead of sending the Armoured divisions, backed up by Air support then later only realizing that actually that was the wrong call. Again, I put to you that the beliefs that you have held up in this debate are the exact reason why this happened.

I will tell you that we could have been effective if we weren't so scarred of having our soldiers hurt/die
I will tell you that we could have acted with more definitive concern, but we were held up by people not wanting to see western soldiers die.
I will tell you that our hands would be bloodier if we hadn't (eventually) sent in the troops

I don't weep, I just accept that when it is time for action, it should be swift, decisive and brutal. however others still cling to a delusion of that humanity is good and so delay action, often to the point as what happened in Rwanda.

They were never scared of the enemy on the ground ... they were scared of the unseen enemy of the controlled world media and their invisible masters!

[TheDemonLord]

They were never scared of the enemy on the ground ... they were scared of the unseen enemy of the controlled world media and their invisible masters!

Exactly - Scarred of pictures of Flag draped coffins

[oldrider]

Exactly - Scarred of pictures of Flag draped coffins

True! ... They never had to contend with the wars extending right into every living room around the world before Viet Nam!

Notice how majority of ISIS based news items always are accompanied by the same old pictures, unless it's a beheading, they are always current!

[Akzle]

We, in the western world have the power to stop such atrocities,

arguable, since it's never been achieved, and the us has had the most well funded (by fucken jew cunts) military for the last century, straight. and, correct me if i'm wrong, but they've never won a war. (or 'conflict' as they politely put it)

with Power is granted responsible to use it wisely.

a dandy notion, i assume here we're getting mao about it (power grows out the barrel of a gun")?
granted? i haven't granted anyone anything. who has "granted" this "power" to a select few white fucks??
spin the fucking money go round... war on drugs, war on terror, war on abstract notion that will never be conquered but needs lots of funding.

terrorists have successfully hijacked..... your imagination.

I concede that we don't always get it right, sometimes we intervene when we shouldn't and sometimes we don't intervene when we should - and with the clarity of hindsight, people like you and I are left to argue at length as to the merits of our action or inaction

what's this "we" white fulla, we AINT all in this together. the wars i would choose aren't going to be fought, because people are too stupid to realise they're under attack.

clearly you have not thought this through...........kill the polys and the jews and you won't have a cheque to forward

question is ... do our 'leaders' have enough foresight, intelligence and patience to put it into practice...

leaders? fucken excuse me, who??? i'm not following any of those fucks, and when the time comes, they're going to be downrange of my position.

Things like treating women as equals instead of property you mean?

an absolute arsery. women are things. just look at how fucked up shit is since we let them out of the kitchen.

And why is it you think the United Nations has turned into a limp wristed organisation that is too scarred to slap someone on the wrist with a wet bus ticket?

I put forward it is because people who share many of your sentiments:

War is bad
We shouldn't send troops in because they might get hurt/die

hey, don't fuck with the jewnited nations, they will write you a strongly worded letter!

They were never scared of the enemy on the ground ... they were scared of the unseen enemy of the controlled world media and their invisible masters!

no, they were scared of the grey ghosts of the forest. an enemy that didn't believe in line infantry, because that's the smartest way to fight war!


they aren't smart enough to be scared of the paymasters!

[Voltaire]

Last edited by Gremlin; Today at 00:36. Reason: Oversized Image Removed

Robs picture was the only good bit in his rambling waffle.

[SPman]

Robert Fisk has a few words to say on this.........

My father threw away his poppy in disgust
My family was haunted by my father’s experience on the Somme and the loss of his friends. Why do we pay homage to the dead but ignore the lessons of their war?

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...t-9645299.html

[FJRider]

... Why do we pay homage to the dead but ignore the lessons of their war?

It's not about what they did. More about the reasons about what they tried (official version) to do.

Had they not ... the free world might have been smaller. And nowhere near as free ..

[oldrider]

Robert Fisk has a few words to say on this.........

My father threw away his poppy in disgust
My family was haunted by my father’s experience on the Somme and the loss of his friends. Why do we pay homage to the dead but ignore the lessons of their war?

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/...t-9645299.html

Because we are conditioned to believe that which is intended for us to believe because of that it could (will) all happen again tomorrow!

[mstriumph]

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Why would you think I don't want to? Projection of you not wanting me to, on account of me pointing out some truths you're not entirely happy with?

sorry
people who make remarks about women being subsidiary are normally trying to discredit the opposition because they fear they are losing the argument
if that's not you, carry on, glad to have you

[mstriumph]

arguable, since it's never been achieved, and the us has had the most well funded (by fucken jew cunts) military for the last century, straight. and, correct me if i'm wrong, but they've never won a war. (or 'conflict' as they politely put it)

a dandy notion, i assume here we're getting mao about it (power grows out the barrel of a gun")?
granted? i haven't granted anyone anything. who has "granted" this "power" to a select few white fucks??
spin the fucking money go round... war on drugs, war on terror, war on abstract notion that will never be conquered but needs lots of funding.

terrorists have successfully hijacked..... your imagination.


what's this "we" white fulla, we AINT all in this together. the wars i would choose aren't going to be fought, because people are too stupid to realise they're under attack.





leaders? fucken excuse me, who??? i'm not following any of those fucks, and when the time comes, they're going to be downrange of my position.

an absolute arsery. women are things. just look at how fucked up shit is since we let them out of the kitchen.

hey, don't fuck with the jewnited nations, they will write you a strongly worded letter!

no, they were scared of the grey ghosts of the forest. an enemy that didn't believe in line infantry, because that's the smartest way to fight war!


they aren't smart enough to be scared of the paymasters!

Wow, you had a great time with this, didn't you? Funnily enough, if you'd lay off the Jews (and women, and Muslims or whatever else group is your badmouth target de jour ... ) I'd be agreeing with you.

(Although I do think it's quite cute that you and Old Rider both seem to think those Jews have that much power and influence when everyone with any sense KNOWS that it's Catholics that are the great satan ... )

[mstriumph]

Because we are conditioned to believe that which is intended for us to believe because of that it could (will) all happen again tomorrow!

thankfully conditioning doesn't always take
this thread proves that there are many of us out here saying "the king has no clothes..."

[Akzle]

Wow, you had a great time with this, didn't you? Funnily enough, if you'd lay off the Jews (and women, and Muslims or whatever else group is your badmouth target de jour ... ) I'd be agreeing with you.

(Although I do think it's quite cute that you and Old Rider both seem to think those Jews have that much power and influence when everyone with any sense KNOWS that it's Catholics that are the great satan ... )

oh dear, dear. jews. Not Jews. And as johnny would point out, more like Zionists. And ive explained it so many times ill not repeat it again.

And if you think money doesnt have 'that much influence' on global conflict, well, youre silly.

The reign of christianity (any segregation thereof) is all but over. On account of the debt they racked up (guess whjew) crusading and shit.

Money, is the new god.

And if anyone takes me srsly (on any topic including wimmen, jews, ragheads, niggers, chinks, spics or the irish), well, they deserve any butthurt they get.

[oldrider]

Because we are conditioned to believe that which is intended for us to believe because of that it could (will) all happen again tomorrow!

American congress voting to declare war on Russia seems to bare out that the above thought has substance!

Your own attitudes toward Catholicism is exactly the same as any statement that I have made about international Zionism = bigot in your terms.

Personally I only try to put together the things I find in the world that appear to cause the outcomes that we all have to live with.

Cause and effect .. I am too insignificant to be able to do any more than that and suggest that you or anyone else here on KB is not any different.

The good bit for me is that there are still significant numbers of free thinkers still out there in the world - I don't expect to agree with them all!

[mashman]

Wow, you had a great time with this, didn't you? Funnily enough, if you'd lay off the Jews (and women, and Muslims or whatever else group is your badmouth target de jour ... ) I'd be agreeing with you.

(Although I do think it's quite cute that you and Old Rider both seem to think those Jews have that much power and influence when everyone with any sense KNOWS that it's Catholics that are the great satan ... )

jew = blind scared old white muthafucka. They come in all flavours, colours, genders, religions, political ideologies etc... some are sugar frosted, some come with a flake drizzled in blood red syrup... but I prefer the ones dipped in hundreds and thousands and served in a wafer like a sammy. They exist, but they aren't necessarily Jewish by any stretch of the imagination.