Stupid World

**jonbuoy** · 11th December 2014, 08:45

Originally Posted by mashman

You blame someone for being unable to function in a manner that you believe they should. You aren't them. You quite clearly don't understand their situation. Oh yeah... treat the parents right and you may find that that'll trickle down.

Govt should be able to solve every problem... it's kind of why they're there!

seriously? Do checks on unemployed people coz what? they're more likely to molest?

That there are different "benefits" in various country's shows just how fuckin stupid this world is.

No you muppet - do checks on the unemployed so they don't die in Diabetic comas! Different countries have different budgets - that's why some countries have huge poverty problems and some don't.

No the government can't solve every social problem. The government is not your nurse maid. Countries with good social welfare plans are in the minority world wide. Go visit the developing world and I bet you will never whine about our governments ever again.

**mashman** · 11th December 2014, 09:08

Originally Posted by jonbuoy

No you muppet - do checks on the unemployed so they don't die in Diabetic comas! Different countries have different budgets - that's why some countries have huge poverty problems and some don't.

No the government can't solve every social problem. The government is not your nurse maid. Countries with good social welfare plans are in the minority world wide. Go visit the developing world and I bet you will never whine about our governments ever again.

I know my working sister in law is grateful to her family, friends and work colleagues that see that she's heading for a hypo and ensure they keep her topped up. She's not unemployed and is at exactly the same risk as they unemployed person of a diabetic coma. Should there be a health officer that checks people who aren't being "watched", yes, absolutely... especially if you're trying to prevent diabetic coma. Can the govt achieve this, yes, absolutely, it is a matter of will. Yeah, money problems preventing the appropriate care being given to a human being... fuckin genius method of dissolving a member of the public, and by extension their governmental (more mental than govt) representatives, from any form of responsibility for any other being that does not meet a set criteria and does not bend in order to accommodate all that the system has to offer. Pathetic really.

Yes, every govt can solve every social problem, they merely have to make a law and then walk away. More seriously, given that the govt is made up of people that are being paid to try to address a given issue, every govt should be able to solve every social problem. That you believe that I won't whine about a western govt again because there's another govt on the planet that does many things worse than the one that claims to represent me is seriously deluded... and in no way will I ever buy into that total and absolute horseshit again. You seem to be more easily appeased, but that's by design, so whilst it's your own fault (using your measuring stick), and whilst you can legally disassociate yourself from any outcome by claiming that it's worse over there, I won't, coz I know better.

Hell an R.B.E. govt would wipe out poverty and the associated financial stress that warps people's perceptions overnight and would achieve that which every govt today is incapable of doing.

**jonbuoy** · 11th December 2014, 09:29

Originally Posted by mashman

I know my working sister in law is grateful to her family, friends and work colleagues that see that she's heading for a hypo and ensure they keep her topped up. She's not unemployed and is at exactly the same risk as they unemployed person of a diabetic coma. Should there be a health officer that checks people who aren't being "watched", yes, absolutely... especially if you're trying to prevent diabetic coma. Can the govt achieve this, yes, absolutely, it is a matter of will. Yeah, money problems preventing the appropriate care being given to a human being... fuckin genius method of dissolving a member of the public, and by extension their governmental (more mental than govt) representatives, from any form of responsibility for any other being that does not meet a set criteria and does not bend in order to accommodate all that the system has to offer. Pathetic really.

Yes, every govt can solve every social problem, they merely have to make a law and then walk away. More seriously, given that the govt is made up of people that are being paid to try to address a given issue, every govt should be able to solve every social problem. That you believe that I won't whine about a western govt again because there's another govt on the planet that does many things worse than the one that claims to represent me is seriously deluded... and in no way will I ever buy into that total and absolute horseshit again. You seem to be more easily appeased, but that's by design, so whilst it's your own fault (using your measuring stick), and whilst you can legally disassociate yourself from any outcome by claiming that it's worse over there, I won't, coz I know better.

Hell an R.B.E. govt would wipe out poverty and the associated financial stress that warps people's perceptions overnight and would achieve that which every govt today is incapable of doing.

Make a law and walk away - yeah right - people break the laws we have now.

It's sad that you seem to want the government to monitor your every move as humans clearly can't be trusted to look after themselves.
Your right I don't understand it - I've always looked out for myself and my family - never expected anyone else to wipe my arse for me. That's the way I was brought up. I guess you were brought up to expect big brother government to look after you? Were your parents grafters or bludgers?

**mashman** · 11th December 2014, 10:02

Originally Posted by jonbuoy

Make a law and walk away - yeah right - people break the laws we have now.

It's sad that you seem to want the government to monitor your every move as humans clearly can't be trusted to look after themselves.
Your right I don't understand it - I've always looked out for myself and my family - never expected anyone else to wipe my arse for me. That's the way I was brought up. I guess you were brought up to expect big brother government to look after you? Were your parents grafters or bludgers?

They do, yet we still make more laws, so was sarcasm... hence why the next sentence started with "More seriously".

So people at risk should be left to die with no societal intervention eh?
Let me make it easy for you then: Your arse is, and has been for some considerable time, wiped for you. You didn't make the toilet, you didn't make the paper, you didn't make the ex-food that went plop, you made absolutely nothing other than the mess, so you're obviously taking it all for granted. Brought up you say?

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Me, I was brought up in a very Conservative (right whinge) household, Maggie lovers the lot of 'em. My parents have next to fuck all to do with my upbringing. I AM a law unto myself! Sounds like your parents were arselickers... coz you claim that they are responsible for how you turned out.

**bogan** · 11th December 2014, 10:15

Originally Posted by jonbuoy

Make a law and walk away - yeah right - people break the laws we have now.

It's sad that you seem to want the government to monitor your every move as humans clearly can't be trusted to look after themselves.
Your right I don't understand it - I've always looked out for myself and my family - never expected anyone else to wipe my arse for me. That's the way I was brought up. I guess you were brought up to expect big brother government to look after you? Were your parents grafters or bludgers?

Nah just put tracking chips in all the unemployed so we can check their vitals etc, and deliver aid (obviously there will be GPS too) when required. Simple.

Shares in tin foil please...

**Akzle** · 11th December 2014, 11:06

Originally Posted by jonbuoy

Make a law and walk away - yeah right - people break the laws we have now.

no man is above the law.

what you mean is legislation

and if legislation dictates i should act against my better moral judgement, i'm naturally obliged to ignore it.

**mashman** · 11th December 2014, 11:24

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Fuckin idiots.

**mashman** · 11th December 2014, 11:26

Originally Posted by Akzle

no man is above the law.

what you mean is legislation

and if legislation dictates i should act against my better moral judgement, i'm naturally obliged to ignore it.

**Banditbandit** · 11th December 2014, 11:55

**mashman** · 11th December 2014, 13:28

McDonald's to cut down menu items to boost speed... OMG they're cutting down on our choices in order to be more efficient

Originally Posted by bogdan

The end choice of product will be chosen by the people, but what they can choose from is chosen by TPTB

Any clearer yet bogdan?

**Banditbandit** · 11th December 2014, 14:09

Originally Posted by mashman

McDonald's to cut down menu items to boost speed... OMG they're cutting down on our choices in order to be more efficient

Process more food - sell more food - make more money ..isn't that what it's all about ??? Bugger consumer choice - it costs Maccas money ..

**mashman** · 11th December 2014, 15:12

Originally Posted by Banditbandit

Process more food - sell more food - make more money ..isn't that what it's all about ??? Bugger consumer choice - it costs Maccas money ..

True... more of us like X, so they will produce more of X and those who like Y can get fucked. And don't forget the smaller portions. Wonder if we're paying for air in crisp (chippy to you) packets?

**Akzle** · 11th December 2014, 15:24

Originally Posted by mashman

True... more of us like X, so they will produce more of X and those who like Y can get fucked. And don't forget the smaller portions. Wonder if we're paying for air in crisp (chippy to you) packets?

and according to recent surveys: air is good.