Stupid World

[bogan]

Think this belongs here: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/heal...spiracy-belief

Good read, and good placement.

[mashman]

Data mining? That makes an economy aware? How very Orwellian.

And utterly wrong, of course. Perhaps you should break out the dictionary.

See it's not the economy using wholesale data, it's people. And no doubt some of 'em are lying and cheating, stupid people often do, but in fact the gathering of data isn't actually required to tell lies or to cheat, so why would liars and cheats bother?

How else do you get the statistics for your reports?

You mean you're unable to explain yourself.

And people make up the economy, therefore it is the economy completely totally and utterly. Stupid people often, wtf, I don't think you could be anymore wrong there. Of course it's a requirement, else the entire system would collapse as there isn't enough production to back the investment that we need in order to do anything other than limp into a future of more of the same. Alas I fear that a bridge to far.

You don't have a choice cookie boy, economies like ours are hugely successful, they're here to stay.

And I'll point out, again, that you successfully use and benefit from it every day. More: in paying for goods and services and accepting payment for same you prove every day that it works just fine. That, and the fact that you're a roaring hypocrite.

Cookie monster muthafucka. I set our bar far higher.

Have I ever said that I don't benefit from the system the way it is? The only thing I will say, is that it doesn't offer me anything to vote for, which means all avenues aren't being looked at when it comes to making the best use of our cumulative resources and ever dwindling time constraint due to resource wastage. I have no issue with my hypocrisy as I am fully aware of your perception of it.

[mashman]

It is because they're fucked in the head. You can tell them at a thousand yards because they use quotes completely contradicting their arguments.

Here, have some relevant quotes:

Relevant? ... genius.

[Brian d marge]

You don't have a choice cookie boy, economies like ours are hugely successful, they're here to stay.

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omg . thaank god there aint no fancy weaving machines or you would be off a smashing and a burnin

fact . . .not one fiat money system has worked not one i think there has been over 600 of em and all

even the mainstream press are starting to talk about corrections

japan, . . .118 to the dollar due to abes qe . . .in a currency war with china .

oh this is going to work . . . not

not if but when and those without debt and hard assest will be ok . .those without or in debt , student included . .are fked

[Ocean1]

fact . . .not one fiat money system has worked not one i think there has been over 600 of em and all

Then how does it come about that most of them top the charts on almost every metric used to gauge standard of living?

They're so successful the surpluses are spilling over into poor countries! L'horreur!

[mashman]

[mashman]

Yet more choice down the pan... and some financial woes... and I'm pretty sure someone mentioned child rape at the highest echelons of govt.

[jonbuoy]

Yet more choice down the pan... and some financial woes... and I'm pretty sure someone mentioned child rape at the highest echelons of govt.

Yup there are some twisted cunts out there. The thing is those twisted cunts are still going to be around even if we take away money. There has to be some management system for resources that aren't infinite (most of them) and some sort of law and order. If anything we will be less powerful not more without money.

[mashman]

Yup there are some twisted cunts out there. The thing is those twisted cunts are still going to be around even if we take away money. There has to be some management system for resources that aren't infinite (most of them) and some sort of law and order. If anything we will be less powerful not more without money.

I know they will, but the only reason they have power is because they pay people to do the bad things them cunts want done. If you can't pay them and they have absolutely nothing over you, and the rest of society has got your back because they know they're out there too... then it'll make it a fuckload harder for cunts to do cuntish stuff, because all they won't be able to afford it .

I'll say it again, Resource Based Economy. It does more than you can possibly imagine. Power to the people, literally. People will have their say. the word of the people will be the direction of the country. blah blah blah insert any number of 1 billion and 1 reasons why a Resource Based Economy makes it harder to abuse resources. It won't be perfect, but it spanks the arse off of anything else that there has ever been in terms of a solution. Gawd blesha Jacques.

I encourage you to give it some thought.

[Scuba_Steve]

In fact if you find yourself surrounded by monopolies and have little market choice it's far more likely you're in a communist state, not a capitalist one.

2 sides of the same coin then ay... Guess the only difference is who owns those monopolies

[JATZ]

I'll say it again, Resource Based Economy. It does more than you can possibly imagine. Power to the people, literally. People will have their say. the word of the people will be the direction of the country. blah blah blah insert any number of 1 billion and 1 reasons why a Resource Based Economy makes it harder to abuse resources. It won't be perfect, but it spanks the arse off of anything else that there has ever been in terms of a solution. Gawd blesha Jacques.

I encourage you to give it some thought.

I thought about it.... It won't work.
"Power to the people" is a nice slogan, but some people want more power than others and do anything to get it, other people are just not interested. It's human nature. Change that, and you might be able to fix other things.

Good luck with it....

[mashman]

I thought about it.... It won't work.
"Power to the people" is a nice slogan, but some people want more power than others and do anything to get it, other people are just not interested. It's human nature. Change that, and you might be able to fix other things.

Good luck with it....

How will those who want power take it? and what power will there be to take? Human behaviour changes based on it's surrounding environment. Change the environment and the behaviour will change. If there is nothing to take because everything is freely given, then where is the profit in taking and trying to wield power? PM me for "answers" iffen ye like

Question: Would you prefer to live in a Resource Based Economy that is open to abuse, but has no crime, poverty, excellent education facilities and standards, A+ healthcare facilities and standards etc..

or

Would you prefer to live under the current system that is open to abuse, but has crime, poverty, ok educational facilities and standards, ok healthcare facilities and standards etc...

Same people in power grabbing the same resources etc...?

Thanks for the luck... have a look at the Money Free Party as they're looking to represent an R.B.E. in NZ.

[Ocean1]

2 sides of the same coin then ay... Guess the only difference is who owns those monopolies

Correct. And the same solution, remove the protections that allow them to exist.

[jonbuoy]

I know they will, but the only reason they have power is because they pay people to do the bad things them cunts want done. If you can't pay them and they have absolutely nothing over you, and the rest of society has got your back because they know they're out there too... then it'll make it a fuckload harder for cunts to do cuntish stuff, because all they won't be able to afford it .

I'll say it again, Resource Based Economy. It does more than you can possibly imagine. Power to the people, literally. People will have their say. the word of the people will be the direction of the country. blah blah blah insert any number of 1 billion and 1 reasons why a Resource Based Economy makes it harder to abuse resources. It won't be perfect, but it spanks the arse off of anything else that there has ever been in terms of a solution. Gawd blesha Jacques.

I encourage you to give it some thought.

I do and have - only way I can see it working is with unlimited recources - which means unlimited power- which might well happen in the next few hundred years.

[mashman]

I do and have - only way I can see it working is with unlimited recources - which means unlimited power- which might well happen in the next few hundred years.

Ya don't need unlimited resource. You just need to be more careful with the ones that you currently have... and we're not, not even remotely. We won't make a few hundred years at the rate we're going, imho.