Stupid World

**bogan** · 15th December 2014, 17:59

Originally Posted by mashman

... how little you think of your fellow man. My money is on the people accepting an R.B.E.

Little? I'm certain my fellow people are making the right decision (capitalism and capitalist RBE over commie rubbish), and that they will continue to do so; which to me suggest I think rather well of them. You seem to think very little of them and that choice if you reckon it'll be reversed and communism happen in our lifetime

The thing is, your money isn't on that at all, everyone elses is. If your money was, you'd use it to be the change. What have you changed mushy? a few 'minds' here and there perhaps? but what have you actually created? fuck all apart from whinging I'll bet.

**bogan** · 15th December 2014, 18:04

Originally Posted by mashman

You've not been paying attention have you.

Have you?

http://people.howstuffworks.com/communism1.htm

Marx also detailed the 10 essential tenets of communism, namely:
Central banking system -check
Government controlled education -check
Government controlled labor -check
Government ownership of transportation and communication vehicles -check
Government ownership of agricultural means and factories -check
Total abolition of private property -maybe, depends on what day you ask mashy ab
Property rights confiscation -see above
Heavy income tax on everyone -check
Elimination of rights of inheritance -check
Regional planning -check

Yup, still sounds like communism to me ol mushman.

**mashman** · 15th December 2014, 18:04

Originally Posted by bogan

Little? I'm certain my fellow people are making the right decision (capitalism and capitalist RBE over commie rubbish), and that they will continue to do so; which to me suggest I think rather well of them. You seem to think very little of them and that choice if you reckon it'll be reversed and communism happen in our lifetime

The thing is, your money isn't on that at all, everyone elses is. If your money was, you'd use it to be the change. What have you changed mushy? a few 'minds' here and there perhaps? but what have you actually created? fuck all apart from whinging I'll bet.

Ok. It's not communism.. and what's worse, you can't prove it. Surely if it were that black and white it would have been done and dusted. Let it go bro.

My money is on it.

**bogan** · 15th December 2014, 18:08

Originally Posted by mashman

Surely if it were that black and white it would have been done and dusted.

It is, see the above list.

**mashman** · 15th December 2014, 18:09

Originally Posted by bogan

Have you?

http://people.howstuffworks.com/communism1.htm

Marx also detailed the 10 essential tenets of communism, namely:
Central banking system - capitalism has one
Government controlled education -capitalism sets the curriculum
Government controlled labor -minimum wage
Government ownership of transportation and communication vehicles - where have I ever stated that?
Government ownership of agricultural means and factories - capitalism calls them regulators
Total abolition of private property - you'll still own shit
Property rights confiscation - the govt can currently take anything off you that they choose
Heavy income tax on everyone -

there will be no income tax
Elimination of rights of inheritance -

where have I ever stated that?
Regional planning - well the region will have the power to do what the region wants and the govt will be nothing more than a facilitator.

Yup, still sounds like you haven't got a clue to me ol bogdan.

fixed it for ya

**bogan** · 15th December 2014, 18:21

Originally Posted by mashman

fixed it for ya

Excellent, now you're talking substance again!

Marx also detailed the 10 essential tenets of communism, namely:
Central banking system - capitalism has one which is irrelevant unless you are trying to convince me capitalism is communism

I mean you have history of word redifinitions but that would take things a bit far
Government controlled education -capitalism sets the curriculum to a point, but secondary school you choose subjects, tertiary you choose the whole lot, and pay for it (also, see #1)
Government controlled labor -minimum wage does not control labor (also see #1)
Government ownership of transportation and communication vehicles - where have I ever stated that? you keep saying everyone is the govt, so if not govt owned then who?
Government ownership of agricultural means and factories - capitalism calls them regulators, which do not own either of those things, merely regulate them
Total abolition of private property - you'll still own shit, hmm own things but at no cost, seems like a shit idea but we can cross this one off then
Property rights confiscation - the govt can currently take anything off you that they choose, factually wrong.
Heavy income tax on everyone - there will be no income tax; actually the whole thing is tax, as it all goes to the govt (populace)
Elimination of rights of inheritance - where have I ever stated that? ok, we can cross that one off too; of course with property rights confiscation above it does eliminate the right to a fair degree
Regional planning - well the region will have the power to do what the region wants and the govt will be nothing more than a facilitator; yup, that one is still on list then.

So 8/10, verdict: filthy pinko commie system

**mashman** · 15th December 2014, 18:32

Originally Posted by bogan

Excellent, now you're talking substance again!

Not even close.

**bogan** · 15th December 2014, 18:34

Originally Posted by mashman

Not even close.

You retreating again? too much logic applied I guess...

**mashman** · 15th December 2014, 19:00

Originally Posted by bogan

You retreating again? too much logic applied I guess...

You have nothing relevant to add. Certainly not logic.

**bogan** · 15th December 2014, 19:11

Originally Posted by mashman

You have nothing relevant to add. Certainly not logic.

If that were true you could rebuff my evaluation. You can't, so it isn't. Logic, it just works, bitches

Marx also detailed the 10 essential tenets of communism, namely:
Central banking system - capitalism has one which is irrelevant unless you are trying to convince me capitalism is communism I mean you have history of word redifinitions but that would take things a bit far
Government controlled education -capitalism sets the curriculum to a point, but secondary school you choose subjects, tertiary you choose the whole lot, and pay for it (also, see #1)
Government controlled labor -minimum wage does not control labor (also see #1)
Government ownership of transportation and communication vehicles - where have I ever stated that? you keep saying everyone is the govt, so if not govt owned then who?
Government ownership of agricultural means and factories - capitalism calls them regulators, which do not own either of those things, merely regulate them
Total abolition of private property - you'll still own shit, hmm own things but at no cost, seems like a shit idea but we can cross this one off then
Property rights confiscation - the govt can currently take anything off you that they choose, factually wrong.
Heavy income tax on everyone - there will be no income tax; actually the whole thing is tax, as it all goes to the govt (populace)
Elimination of rights of inheritance - where have I ever stated that? ok, we can cross that one off too; of course with property rights confiscation above it does eliminate the right to a fair degree
Regional planning - well the region will have the power to do what the region wants and the govt will be nothing more than a facilitator; yup, that one is still on list then.