Paris policeman shot in head as he pleads for life

[yokel]

There was a shot of that piece of pavement on Sky News this morning. Plenty of blood stain in evidence.

Ironic that the poor cop was also a Muslim.

if it was on TV it must be true right? haha

and just like the ID card "found" in the get away casualy car, more and more "evidence" is appearing

[yokel]

French MPs voted in favour of a Palestinian state. France just voted against Israel at the UN.


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=be1_1420745407

[Big Dog]

here is a slow mo vid after the women's finished blah blahing http://youtu.be/jLarWC4tEZ0 there is zero visible gore, by not watching it your staving your brain of much needed oxygen.

any "gore" you may feel is just imagined.

The thing with moral decisions is you generally cannot undo them. I doubt it would have anywhere near a significant effect on me if the footage of Kenneth Bigley having his head sawed off with a bread knife didn't cause me to lose sleep. I can still picture and hear it now 10 year or so later but it still does not upset me.
The realization that I was not affected by it and had participated in the terrorists actions by watching their video on the other hand, that left me with some questions about myself.

No, I am not starving myself of oxygen by not watching it.
I know via the text what is purported to be contained within, I merely wished to point out that the effect Hollywood has had on society has resulted in a more jaded citizen. One who's blood lust is not satisfied so it must be fake.
An irony here is, in another doco I recall a detective saying one of the major benefits of the Hollywood effect was that it made it easy for an experienced investigator to tell when a witness was telling you what they wanted to see, thought you wanted to hear etc vs. a witness who was telling you what really happened.
Every day as we go about our lives we are bombarded with data. Some of it real, some of it not. Some of it positive, most of it not... this is an example of it does not matter if it is true or not.
Either way Society is less for its existence and I would be a lesser person for viewing it. I would be more polluted than I already am.
Society is less if it is real, less because we share, comment on, praise / ridicule a snuff flick and because we mock those whose opinions are different from ours.
Society is less if it is fake, less because it was made in the first place by an organization desperate enough to try to alter public opinion by causing outrage with a lie.

Not everything is a conspiracy, but given enough time to trawl the internet you can find enough evidence to support either version of truth that you support.

If it is real, I take my hat off and reflect that once again we have lost a life in what appears to be a senseless act. A life that belonged to a person willing to don a uniform and stand between the bad guys and us. By various reports a father, husband and Muslim.
If it is real or false, I shake my head at what has become of the internet.

[Big Dog]

There was a shot of that piece of pavement on Sky News this morning. Plenty of blood stain in evidence.

No pun intended?

[Big Dog]

if it was on TV it must be true right? haha

and just like the ID card "found" in the get away casualy car, more and more "evidence" is appearing

So if you lose your ID in a car it has to be intentional or a govt coverup or some such? It couldn't be because the persons who carried out the act were not professionals, were panicked. Possibly even a little keen to get the recognition they feel is deserved?


If there was no evidence that would be a greater proof of governmental or at least "agency" involvement because that would point to pros, pros with access, tools, training, funding and a cleanup crew.

[yokel]

So if you lose your ID in a car it has to be intentional or a govt coverup or some such? It couldn't be because the persons who carried out the act were not professionals, were panicked. Possibly even a little keen to get the recognition they feel is deserved?


If there was no evidence that would be a greater proof of governmental or at least "agency" involvement because that would point to pros, pros with access, tools, training, funding and a cleanup crew.

but the news reports that they were pros, and they were certainly not in any sort of panic. maybe we should talk to Arthur Allan Thomas?

I have no blood lust, I want it to end but as long a this fake "war on terror" keeps being perpetuated a lot more blood will be let.

I cant stand stupid arse Hollywood movies, hardly ever watch them or TV for that matter.

[Katman]

It couldn't be because the persons who carried out the act were not professionals......?

Really?

Cos I thought they looked professional as.

[Oakie]

if it was on TV it must be true right? haha

Just like if some great oracle casts doubt on something on the internet that must be false too. The written or spoken word is one thing but if I see stuff with my own eyes that's a bit more believable.

[Oakie]

No pun intended?

Oh I saw it there and thought feck it, it's been a long week and I can't be arsed changing it.

[Big Dog]

Really?

Cos I thought they looked professional as.

Assuming you mean the storming of the newspaper, ruthless and reasonably efficient but body posture movements look more like the calm arrogance of armed thugs who expect no resistance. Little in the way of covering flanks or system about clearing rooms.

Pros would have fired fewer shots for greater effect.
I bet that leaked from their bodies pretty fast as adrenaline burned of and was replaced by the fact that any pursuit was likely to include an armed response.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Big Dog]

Mind you I wasn't there and only know what I was shown on the news.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[yokel]

Assuming you mean the storming of the newspaper, ruthless and reasonably efficient but body posture movements look more like the calm arrogance of armed thugs who expect no resistance. Little in the way of covering flanks or system about clearing rooms.

Pros would have fired fewer shots for greater effect.
I bet that leaked from their bodies pretty fast as adrenaline burned of and was replaced by the fact that any pursuit was likely to include an armed response.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

And here I was thinking that I was the one with a weird and wacky imagination! haha

[mada]

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that all sounds very nice but the reality is that there is no real evidence in the video of any kind of gunshot wound or injury other than the cop laying on the ground.
if the cop did receive a fatal gun shot wound he'd be doing the funky chicken on the footpath.

"Then regarding the jerking - his head and torso all move in the direction of the shot." he was already moving before he was shot , getting into the "i'm dead" position.

looks to me like he is in no real pain or distress, and in no fucking way pleading for his life.

if someone read the head line and then watched the video, they would have a totally distorted impression of the video and events that actually happened.

Then you would probably say the same thing about this video of a Palestinian who was shot by the Israeli's while helping aid agencies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXwxb0f5L64

Like I said, often death is not as bloody and gory. It's pretty sad that people believe that crap so much that they don't believe sadness and trauma when they see it. I guess it explains why we see so many more stories about old people or injured people on the side of the road or out in the community with no one stopping to lend a hand.. cos they "didn't look like they were hurt or in trauma" based on real life Shortland St.

And do tell what does pain really look like, especially if that pain is internal and sudden? Do all people plead for their lives before they die? It's not plausible that he may be in a state of shock given that he just been shot out of nowhere and now has two swatted out guys approaching him??

[mada]

Really?
You guys make me sick. You actually see footage of someone getting killed and you not only argue that he is, you then go on to expertly point out why he isn't.
Any of you happen to know his wife/girlfriend,boyfriend?
Bet they think he is!

Yep pretty sick society nowadays. Then again, some of the real conspiracy shit that has occurred by governments around the world supposedly in our names and interests has been a catalyst not only for the terrorism that occurs in our own countries but the endless conspiracy theories that challenge everything from Moon landings to terrorist execution videos (even the decapitation ones).

I think people need to be critical of what they are told, but also need to look at the counter points rationally.

[scumdog]

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that all sounds very nice but the reality is that there is no real evidence in the video of any kind of gunshot wound or injury other than the cop laying on the ground.
if the cop did receive a fatal gun shot wound he'd be doing the funky chicken on the footpath.

"Then regarding the jerking - his head and torso all move in the direction of the shot." he was already moving before he was shot , getting into the "i'm dead" position.

looks to me like he is in no real pain or distress, and in no fucking way pleading for his life.

if someone read the head line and then watched the video, they would have a totally distorted impression of the video and events that actually happened.

Fuck you are so full of shit, sheesh!!!

How many poor fuckers have YOU seen shot to come up with those half-arsed assumptions?